Why not? People who want to learn will. People who do not want to learn will not. Both will graduate from this "university" and both will be employed to program elevators. One will live happily ever after, one will live incarcerated for a term proportional to the occupancy of the elevator.
can u give code for this..
You need this to fake your way to an engineering degree? Ohhhh! DO MY WORK FOR ME! But no one can learn for you, you will always have to Fake!
Forum Rule, we don't do homework.
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Close to? Suppose you took a class graded on a curve and one of the class dummies who didn't study gpes out and gets pros to not just help but simply provide a pro solution.
So you and the rest of the class get less credit than the faker. Is that a bit like cheating to cheat the class as well as the school. And just like Supreme Court Justices, you know that others may be cheating too.
What kind of engineering school uses a Mega2560 to do so little? MIT had their students work with ATtiny85's but they earn their rep!
I did. All my project participants got the same grade, even though they only wanted a non-failing grade. I proposed the experiments, completed the measurements, compiled the data, created the graphs, proposed theories, wrote code, wrote and proof-read the project paper, while five did anything but show up. We all got a 95% which dragged my grade down and jeopardized my Dean's List appearances. I did not and do not care about the other five. Just me. I have learned that the more gifts OP gets, the better for everyone.
Cheating your way through school when every next course depends on KNOWING THE LAST but cry and get over means another Incompetent Degree Holder loose in the world.
Why would anyone with a working brain want THAT? The rest have to do the work and carry the load of the dead weight cheater.
Excellent ! Anyhow , if I was teaching Arduino type stuff , I’d lurk around here to see who was asking questions about homework stuff .
And just how do you know students by forum names?
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Group project.
Don't you think this was a lesson in co-operation in a team?
Didn't you think it might have been a lesson in group leadership?
If you want to be a 100% achiever, just exam results are not enough.
95% if you did all the work, then you did not work hard enough if you think 95% was disappointing.
Your Dean should have been monitoring your progress and advised you.
Tom... 
Yes. I saw (and see) it like the public road system: We share the same infrastructure, everyone gets to use it as they want, you must account for other's lack of attention (or bad things happen), we failed/prospered as one. I have never had a car crash, either.
My last real management role I was in charge of a group of misfits, of which, one in particular could not be sacked (it was a different era when we allowed people to be screw-ups). I would spend my work day doing my job, but would also need to track down the problem-child and inspect his work, and usually un-"fix" his work and do it the right way, doubling my workload and compromising my efficiency as well as that of the crew. At the end of a week, after our group prepped for the day, I sent the troublemaker away to do the easy stuff, in front of everyone. Same thing next week, and the next, et c. I still made the crew pull the weight, for which they were rewarded, as we quantitatively and qualitatively became the most productive group. Meanwhile, the troublemaker started to dislike that no-one cared that he alone got the easy stuff. His resentment grew until he demanded to not be given the easy stuff. I gave him the "talk" he was missing: You will follow procedure and you will be accountable... or you will be given the easy stuff... and in a short time, he was as good as I needed and became an agreeable person, to everyone. My supervisor even sent a mole to find out how I was boiling the books to create the most successful crew of all crews... and after some months, the mole disclosed his purpose to me, and said to not stop my methods of problem solving. I soon left that field to enter a field where I would never be a manager of people, and only be a worker, responsible for my project and myself, or be sacked. Life was kind.
Yes. My mistakes were mine, and no one else's. I wish that were true every day.
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As someone who was once incarcerated in a failed elevator for about an hour, it's good to finally know the root cause.
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You'd recognise the homework that you had just set!
I have seen it happen before on forums.
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I have moved off-topic posts to this dedicated topic so you can feel free to continue this interesting discussion while leaving the other topic for project assistance.
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You know he is a student studying this subject and his user name appears elsewhere on the WWW , took me about 5 mins to spot him and where he is studying .
He’s on Facebook too.
(Mods would have more info , but they obviously can’t share that )
If you think a student will use your answer to somehow cheat, then just don't post! This is not a hard concept. If you don't want to help, then just STFU! There is no need to throw wild accusations (half of which are wrong, as I've seen from watching the site) and publicly accuse someone of cheating.
So what if you give code? There is still the little issue of the physical hardware and mechanical systems. No one is going to get an EE degree by copying a project or a code block here.
And since there is a project area here with plans, parts lists, schematics, 3D files, etc! etc., PLUS detailed, illustrated, step-by-step fab instructions, WTF are you worried about them copying a #$%&*÷=/ code block? Sheesh, get over yourself already.
Example project available for copying by anyone:
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Disagree. It looks to me like that really is happening. Not just one project or code block, of course. But graduating by following a pattern of online begging and copying, I think so. A lot of institutions are a little "sus" as well, they wink and nod as long as they can take the money and nobody complains.
The seriousness of it is indicated by the fact of a cornucopia of projects and examples that anyone can use to learn, yet still some people are too lazy to use those as learning tools, or maybe even to go and find them. Too lazy to analyze and try to understand them. We often advise people to go look at examples, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But real learning comes from observing, analyzing, and processing the examples. That's much harder than gaming the assignments.
If you don't want to help, then just STFU!
But, the thing is, it's not help.
Some studies have shown that people can benefit from just being handed a correct answer, if it is in the first 5 seconds after the question is posed. But I think that is in a larger context of learning, it would never work stand alone, and it is more directed at subjects that lend themselves to memorization of facts than those that deal with analyses.
It depends on what a person does with a complete solution. They might go, wow, what did I miss, how did it work, etc., this person will learn. Another just goes, hey thanks, wshew I don't have to struggle with this, I'll get a great job by faking my way through everything just like I'm doing this...
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Do you think that a good teacher will spot a slacker by using pop quizzes and tests?
Pop quiz is a tool to identify subjects in need of greater concentration or simple reiteration.
Tests are for the student to recall (test) knowledge gained in the subject.
Neither are to trick a student or spot a slacker.
Both are learning tools.
Most of the cheaters do not do even minimal work looking for an answer so they ask the question as the prof gave it and wow it was a year or two back sometimes many more. Normally homework questions are not real world questions so. They appear in bunches at finals and mid term time frames. I make them do some work or answer it after the finals.
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LMAO!!!
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If the course requires knowing previous courses, the slackers are the dummies always playing catch up. There will be more than there should.