I was not snipping and do not know what snipping is, other than with a gun at long range , I was saying my true feelings after reading 700n posts, I would say the same to any member if I felt they where putting a new member down, if you want to send me to the time away fairy then that is within your power, i'm sure you'll love/"appreciate" it when I follow your posts and say how sorry I am there after. You ARE A MOD this topic is in Bar Sport, READ the rules of Bar Sport, are YOU sport or a Bully?
is this whole thread NOT verbally attacking all Noobs? gaslighting noobs (as you put it), which all noobs can see and READ???? and therefore make the old guard that post ALL LOOK like Narcissists? is it not the same rules for noobs? it's all very confusing, joining the forum can be like going to Boarding School but not being told the rules
~Always look on the bright side of life, maybe, just maybe, asking a question might seem easy but might be the end of you...
I look forward to seeing you solve some user problems on the forum.
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No, it's calling out shameful behavior (I haven't read all posts but the gist of what I've read is that behavior is what's being shamed or "disrespected"). If you have any actual examples where anyone has mocked a new poster, feel free to point it out.
No, I meant you were gaslighting in this thread. You sniped (verbally attacked) @Coding_Badly in #706 and then pretended you were "only asking" in #708 after they called you out for sniping (playing the victim).
You mean like the "rules" (more like guidelines) that are posted very conspicuously at the top of most boards, like How to get the best out of this forum and Read this before posting a programming question ...? Outside this forum, there's also netiquette (common-sense rules to follow for communicating over the Internet) which most people seem to ignore, or resources like How To Ask Questions The Smart Way. There's literally a whole World-Wide Web of information out there on how to effectively and successfully use message forums. Those who actually try to follow those guidelines will have a good chance of success online. Those who don't won't.
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You forgot the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJUhlRoBL8M
Don't forget;
The Galaxy Song;
Cos there is bugger all down here on Earth.
Tom.... 
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There is more than one way to teach someone something. I sometimes do what @Coding_Badly does, well, my version of what he does. I give what I think is enough information for the OP to work out for themselves what the answer is. For some this is perfect, just what they need, a gentle push in the right direction. For others it's terrible, and can upset someone, as someone once told me in a PM (a regular contributor for whom I have respect). The trouble is you post a hint for someone hoping it will help them, or that they will come back with an intelligent question about what you said, but then someone else piles in with a complete answer, code and everything. You can't win, for some people the hint is a terrible way to respond, and the complete answer is just what they need. The problem is sitting at a keyboard unable to see the other person's response to your attempt at help it's often impossible to know whether you have given someone just the help they need or really p****d them off.
So, there are different ways to help and different ways to learn, the difficult to achieve task is to match the way of teaching to the person wanting to learn. No fault on either side.
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I am in the habit of providing help in the form of leading questions such as "where does the loop() function end ?" in the case of a missing or extra closing curly brace that we see all too often but as Perry says, that does not always go down well
Until a topic has developed a little and the type and standard of responses from the OP has been seen it is often difficult to assess how to answer questions but by then there are often several, sometimes conflicting replies, so I usually stop replying and just keep a watching brief on the topic
On a few occasions I have PM'd the OP and the topic has effectively been moved to a private conversation between me and the OP. This has generally worked out OK, but a couple of times it has resulted in what seemed like me trying to teach someone C++ and I have brought the interaction to an end
Another approach that I have taken is to post an example sketch (or details of where to find one) illustrating a technique but not actually a sketch to do exactly what the OP wants. A good example of that would be the StateChangeDetection example showing how to detect when a condition become true rather than when it is true
As Perry says, no on way is right for everyone, but matching answers to the ability of the OP is difficult
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I'm taking time out on this thread, I promise I will be be back in a week or so,
Until then peace out and best wishes,
Phil.
How to spell Arduino?I try hardest to answer a post when - #21 by srnet
I try my hardest to answer a question, when the question starts off about counting insects flying through a frame, and ends up being really about detecting 5mm and larger blueberries falling into a box.
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But maybe the blueberries identify as insects.
Or vice versa.
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You guys are killing me. I'm new here, read through this thread from one end to the other. The discobot should be real proud of me, maybe give me a star or something. Seriously though, it's not just this forum.
On the laser forum, same thing: PLZ HELP! Brand new to lasers, brand new laser, have an order for 10,000 widgets, coming out black instead of white. (no other information)
On the 308 forum: Gun no work, I smarter then you, gun worked year ago, how I fix? (first time poster, no other information) I even came up with a waterboarding thread over there to attempt to get the required information out of the poster in less then 20 questions.
It goes on and on.
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There was a post about a ātransreceiver moduleā which I suppose was a transmitter module that identified as a receiver module.
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I don't know about those bugs, but there's a bug in my Blueberry PI
https://linux-sunxi.org/Blueberry_PI
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I try hardest to answer a post whenā¦
Poster says āit must be right, Iāve been doing it that way for decadesā
Oh, wait! No I donāt.
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When you ask for additional information and you don't get answers to all information that you asked for.
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Yes I agree. It seems like the OP picks one thing to answer and ignores all the things he doesn't know, or know how to do, like drawing a schematic. Acknowledging these short comings would be so much more useful.
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Common guys, that is because the problem cannot be in any of the things not shared!
It must be in the 2 line snippet given by OP!
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