1.54 epaper display guidence

Hi all.

I have this project which is a smart watch with an epaper screen. I am having some difficulties finding the right one. I want a 1.54 inch epaper display with capacitive touch and (if possible, but not needed) a backlight.

I have found this one https://buy-lcd.com/products/154-inch-e-paper-display-200x200-resolution-partial-screen-update-touch-eink-display-gdey0154d67-t03 but I am unsure whether to get it, as I do not know how to wire it to my Arduino. I could get a shield but it must be not much smaller than the display itself.

This is the first time I have done a project like this, I am sorry if I have been unclear and will clarify if needed.

Thanks for your help!

Try this link: Multifunction HAT connection adapter board for e-Paper display demo kit DESPI-C03 (buy-lcd.com)

https://dronebotworkshop.com/epaper/

Thank you for your reply! Yes I saw that one, but I think it may be too big, it is already larger then the epaper display itself, I would like a connector which is no bigger or smaller then the display. Is there not some sort of FPC to wire connector without PCB?

Sorry, I have no idea.

Try the tip from @xfpd.

Hello! I have this idea of a smartwatch I would like to make. The thing is I’m feeling a bit lost because if I wanted to make a practical watch I can’t just use an Arduino nano, since they’re a little too big.

So I’m guessing I would have to make a PCB for it… I don’t know how to make a PCB. Or how to make electrical diagrams and circuits.

If anyone knows a website to learn how to make a PCB, or some automatic PCB maker then that would be great! Any info would help.

Thanks in advance!

(Please tell me If I’m being unclear)

I want the watch PCB to have battery management, wifi, BLE classic, an earphone jack, something so I can program it like an Arduino nano, a micro sd card slot and the necessary things to plug this screen into the PCB: 1.54 inch E-paper Display 200x200 Resolution Partial Screen Update Touch Eink Display, GDEY0154D67-T03

It would be a bit like this Hack together your own e-paper smartwatch with this $50 open-source kit - The Verge

It is a good idea to have a working prototype, that does what you want, before making a PCB. Especially if you are a beginner.

  • This will be a steep learning curve for a non engineering person.

  • Look on YouTube.

  • KiCad is one free program the can be used to design a PCB.

That might be a reasonably challenging project for someone with some years experience in electronics and PCB design.

I'm an engineer (and a hobbyist) and I wouldn't attempt to build a smart watch. The smaller you make something, the harder it gets. In production, the tiny surface mount components in a watch or phone (or almost anything else) are placed & soldered robotically. Again, "not easy" for a hobbyist.

Bluetooth (or other wireless) is very tricky and it requires expensive equipment for tweaking/testing/troubleshooting.

I tried a couple of PCB design applications and I ended-up choosing DesignSpark. The free version doesn't have any "artificial limitations" that would affect me. I wouldn't mind paying for the software, but I don't want to pay a monthly or yearly subscription and I don't want to pay thousands of dollars!

There is "auto routing", where you place the components on the board and the software adds the connections (traces & vias). The DesignSpark auto-routing made a "messy" design and I didn't use it.

I had the bare boards manufactured by Seeed Studio. There are other similar companies and they all farm-out the production to China. I can get 10-20 small boards for about $100 USD and that includes about $30 for DHL shipping. It takes about 2-weeks to the U.S.

I assembled/soldered the boards myself. My boards are through-hole. I avoided surface mount.

P.S.
I've worked in electronics for many years (not as a PCB designer) and I've NEVER seen a board come-back perfect the first time. I've done two computer-designed hobby-boards, and they both took two tries. I tried to be perfect and I double-checked so I didn't think I'd made any mistakes and I was hopeful. They were also rather simple boards. But from what I've seen in industry I wasn't THAT surprised. So you should be mentally and financially prepared to go-through at least one revision.

if you want to learn about PCB design, you should pick a lower target to get started with (Kicad has a good intro tutorial but still requires some knowledge about electronics )

if you want to actually play with a programmable watch form factor and not design one, then look at LILYGO TTGO T-Watch for example

Ttgo sells an ESP watch.
Nice to play with. But short battery life (needs to be charged at least every 2 days).
Programming is already quite a challenge...
I have opened it up. All is realy realy tiny... I would say challenging for a pro...

You’re halfway there…
Buy the kit, get it working, then hack it to add features you need,

That one is nice!
And the e ink screen will use far less power than the lcd in the ttgo!

I have not used any PCB design program, but my late company built thousands of circuit boards for various companies and engineers. So I have to ask will the free programs do multi-layer boards? Will the free programs do the tiny devices necessary for a "watch"? And will the free programs do the necessary fine traces necessary for watch sized products?

From their FAQ

KiCad is capable of creating printed circuit boards with up to 32 copper layers, 14 technical layers (silkscreen, solder mask, component adhesive, solder paste, etc), and 13 general-purpose drawing layers.

The internal measurement resolution of all objects in KiCad is 1 nanometer, and measurements are stored as 32-bit integers. This means it is possible to create boards up to approximately 4 meters by 4 meters.

That is good information. Thanks! Now the question for the OP is to find a board house that can build the prototypes. I had one engineer customer that had a client paying for the design of a pocket sized, hand held, laser range finder device suitable for golfers. He started with reasonable board and we built a newer, smaller set about once a year. Eventually he got so small we could not populate the boards and Sunstone Circuits had to farm out the boards because the trace pitch was too fine. Last example he found a company in Denver to populate his boards for 10X what we charged. I think that was the end of the line for the experiment.

Threads merged.

exactly! EPaper is way more power saving then an oled!

Thank you for all the replies!

I read the answers and the I think for me the easiest thing to try is to change the schematic for this watch: Hack together your own e-paper smartwatch with this $50 open-source kit - The Verge. A bit like what was said here 1.54 epaper display guidence - #13 by lastchancename