Controlling 50 LEDs individually

Hey,

I have kind of a „wierd“ project going on.
I Need to control a total of 50 LED‘s individually.
They are each 50cm apart so a total length of 25m. Wich Means it would be hard to use a matrix type control since i would need to run so many wires for long distances.

I was hoping on using something similar to addresable LED strips.
So one IC for each LED.

The LEDs are not RGB just simple one color LEDs

Now I need to find the Chip best suited for my application

Thanks in advance

Welcome to the forum

Why not use addressable LEDs even if you only want to display a single colour ?

  • Use a commonly available RGB addressable LED strip set to the colour you need.

I Need them kinda bright tho.

I have selected LEDs with 118lm and 350mA

Probably hard to achive that with RGB LEDs

Is there anything else that you haven't told us ?

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As a matter of interest, how will you be powering these LEDs ?

Not really,

here you have a link to the LEDs, they fit my Application really well so I would like to use these ones.

As i Said 50 LEDs 25m controlled inividually

What ever it takes I guess.

Small car battery for example

I cannot guess as to what you need, so for a start can you answer the following:

  1. How are these arranged?
  2. What gauge wire are you looking at, you are just under 18 amps.
  3. How accurate does the brightness of each need to be relative to the other LEDs?
  4. What is the ambient temperature range?
  5. Are they heatsinked, if so give a picture?
  6. are these in open air or a enclosure?
  7. Are they PWM or steady state?
  8. What does controlled individually tell me?
  9. What power is available?
  10. What processor are you looking at?

To properly drive "high power" LEDs (1W and up) you should be using a constant-current driver. Typically these are switchmode drivers, which are not easy to build yourself and tend to be expensive to buy (and you need one per LED).

You CAN "get away" with a current limiting resistor, like a regular little LED but you need a power resistor that can handle about the same power as the LED, and the resistor generates heat while consuming/wasting energy.

High-power LEDs also usually need a heatsink.

With daisy-chained shift-registers you can address a virtually unlimited number of LEDs with just 3 connections to the Arduino. The shift-register outputs would be connected to your higher-power constant-current drivers. But that will not allow dimming.

Some "constant current" drivers are actually dimmable controlled-current drivers, but you can't dim from a shift-register so you'd have to find another solution.

You can buy WS2812 driver chips (the same thing that's inWS 2812 addressable LED strips) and since they are designed for RGB, each one can control 3 LEDs, and they can dim. BUT, that's only about a 20mA driver so you'd still need constant-current drivers for each LED. And "passing through" the dimming may be tricky.

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Hey,

first of all thank you all for the great answers. Im Kinda new to this so please forgive me if i miss any information or dont know something

daisy-chained shift-registers sound really Promising, how are they current wise? Do i NEED the consant current driver because the shift register only outputs a small amount of current. Or could i use Resistors with them.

Is it possible that i could use a WS2812 chip together with transistors to switch the current for the LEDs, or is something like that not possible?

  • Why are you needing such bright LEDs ? :thinking:

I suppose a WS2811 could drive a MOSFET, or three actually. 17 WS2811, each controlling 1 + 2 neighbours.

I finaly found the video wich inspired this idea

I am trying to recreate the "cord" on the ground.
Used to show travic where to move

so i would have 3 Lines going all the way, controlling the WS2811.
And one additional Line with loads of current wich is switched by the Mosfet for each LED

Ground could be the same for LED an WS2811 right?

GND is the same for power and logic. Then one Vcc, and one data.

At position 2,5,8,11etc, in addition to LED and MOSFET, there's a WS2811, that control left-middle-right LED. So there's a forth wire, but not all the way.

But can I use the same Vcc for the WS2811 as for the LEDs? What about the current?

Tomorrow at work imma work myself into understanding more about the Controllers etc.

Does your boss know this?

It could be considered Part of my Job of some sort :sweat_smile:

:smirk:

You should get a PCB layout around those LED's made, send it in to PCBWay or similar, let them manufacture the PCB and populate them with components. What's left for you is to solder the LED's and do the wiring.