Do you like the new forum?

We had them before and now we have them again.
I would though hope this newer site is able to scan them.

No auto clear that I'm aware of. It seems much the same as the behavior on the old forum- once a week or so it asks me to accept cookies.

If I ever do housekeeping to clean out cookies, I see loads of them, so I don't think that they are being culled automatically.

I will certainly still be allowed an answer here. You now have an ultra modern forum, but the icon look does not really fit.

Also, I will probably very difficult to get used to the new look. For me, it's too much around each post. It's just distracting. The slider bar in the margin without page numbers is okay. But the rest is just too much for me right now.

You just have to ask yourself what a forum is for. To ask questions, give answers and share experiences. It doesn't need much for that. It does not have to be colorful. That's just a thought-provoking suggestion.

This quote spoiler will probably also be easily overlooked. One answers and the at least know what one refers to.

Otherwise, the basic functions that have not worked for years finally work. At least that's progress.

It's been a while since I last replied to anything you wrote, Mike - I hope you remember me (one of my first posts I had, way back then, you told me to define my acronyms and such - I'll never forget that).

But yeah - here I am logging in - and omgwtfbbq!! - not this again (I recall the last time - it wasn't pretty!)...sigh.

I'm looking around now - and trying to figure out if they kept any of the old content (specifically for me - my old "RX2TX2 RC car megathread").

I honestly don't know why they do this kind of thing - and/or why they seem to have forgotten what happened the last time (what was it, 2013? It's been a while)...

EDIT:

Ok - "save as" did not work - I scrolled this entire thread to load it up - and saved it - and when I went to load it locally - 10 or so comments, and the rest was "blank". That isn't useful at all.

Plus - it took a long time to scroll to the top...we need pages back - I agree on that.

And some way to "save entire thread" and "expand all comments"...sigh.

ORIGINAL:

Is there any way to save a thread? I mean - in the old forum, you could go into a "printed format" mode, or just "save the page" - and sure, you'd have to page thru each one, but you could easily save the threads and discussion, to browse offline, etc.

This is very important!

I've been on the internet long enough (since 1993) that I have seen websites, discussion forums, newsgroups, etc - come and go - and often, the content is lost forever. While arduino.cc and the forum have weathered the years fairly well, all considered - I don't think they or this forum is immune to this "law" of the internet.

Someday, arduino.cc will cease to exist - and the content may (probably will) go with it.

But just like I still own and love the computer I grew up with (TRS-80 Color Computer) - it is important to have the "documentation" and "discussions" - otherwise, the hardware becomes nearly worthless.

Which is why I like to save old threads from here, on occasion. Good reference material abounds in this forum for the Arduino. I was able to find some of the old threads, so at least the debacle from the last time the forum was updated has been learned from, I think. Even so, that doesn't replace an offline copy.

So far (maybe - I haven't tried it) the only way perhaps to save a thread is to scroll....scroll...scroll to the end - loading all the comments - and then (maybe?) "save as" the page. Again, I don't know if that will work or not...

@cr0sh

Honestly don’t now what you are asking.

Have you seen this list of your posts ?

https://forum.arduino.cc/u/keeper63/activity/replies

I like the new forum. Its different and confusing. I can't find my messages. Had to re-figure out code tags... But I was bored to death with the old forum and never really liked it that much. At least this is new with stuff to explore.

I really like that people can tag a post as "the solution" that's pretty neat.

-jim lee

Yes, I eventually found the megathread and old stuff - so I guess they brought over all or most of it (no way to really know at this point - I mean it has been something like a decade that I've been a member - though only recently started posting after a long hiatus - and nothing like my former frequency, either).

But in my second post - I just mainly want three things:

  1. A way to "expand all comments" for a thread
  2. A way to save all the comments for a thread
  3. ...and something better than "endless scroll" - though I did see the "date/scroller" picker thing on the right-hand side

Part of me wonders if these new changes look or work better if you're on a phone, versus a regular PC and browser...

/oh, and I also want a pony

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Might be able to help with this one :wink: .

‘We’ like your humour :slight_smile: .

I think that most of us are sophisticated enough to know if we can trust a zip file containing a large project.

There's certainly a lot of nice improvements, and 'changes' that are unfamiliar.
Sure there's going to be a teething problem or two.

The things I notice immdiately are -

  1. the old forum was a lot more 'linear' when you were dealing with a topic.
  2. There's a lot more bum-floss that distracts from the actual content.
  3. Users here are going to be more critical (for better or worse) - because they''re often developers in their own right.

Web development is completely different to embedded C++ coding - different methods and goals.
They're not like a 'flower arranging' forum... take it or leave it.

It will settle down, and we'll get used to it.
BUT I hope the Discourse devs are listenig to us as much as they want us to hear them, because there are a cohort of long-time forum members that have probably a combined legacy of 200+ years of directly relevant experience that could help Discourse become a better tool.

Generally I like the new format, and will give it time, but would love to see some of the unnecessary, little-used tinsel get thrown away.

Ok, don't have time to ready every post in this thread to see if this has been covered.

Major things I do NOT like:

No obvious indication of threads that I have replied to in the past - that used to be easy to spot.

Layout is way more cluttered, the old forum showed more posted topics on a single page.

No separation of a thread into multiple pages, instead of this irritating method of loading more posts as I scroll down the page. I absolutely hate not being able to actually see how long the webpage is, and I cannot reliably use a search in my web browser because it cannot search content that is not yet loaded onto the page.

I'll try and get used to working around the new format, but in the long run I have a feeling I'll end up visiting the forum less and less until I just don't care anymore.

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How about RSS feed, I can't find it, is it there somewhere? That is the only way I check for new topics, I don't want to come here and wonder around...

Cheers,
Kari

I think that topics you post on show a light blue icon when there are new posts. At least that's the pattern I've noticed. Although I'm still foggy on where I saw the blue icons. BUT I know I did because that's how I found that this thread had new posts!

Still looking around here & there and under the carpets..

-jim lee

Any one know how badges work?
What is a Jackson badge?

Also specifically why I have not got a Brattain one? Seeing as I was the first Brattain member on this forum.

May be some answers here: https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-are-badges/32540

The gamification link is interesting.

I think because of your post count, you are now a “Jackson”

i.e. Grumpy_Mike Jackson :wink:

:grin: OK I asked for that, but do you know what post count it represents.

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This should be on the top of this kilometres looong mess.

it's not about the 50/50 distribution on todays webtraffic, not about the arduino.cc homepage. It's all about the usage of THIS forum. Do you have statistics of how many posts in this forum are written mobile, how many on desktops? How is the distribution if you check answers, only. How does it change if you check answers with karma - the posts which were marked as valueable answer?

This forum concentrates around an IDE. The IDE is mostly used on desktops. I just can't belive that someone needing help during programming, will grab his phone and put in the question on another device (beside the fact that he might be dissapointed about the current desktop design).

Wait, we just had a post in the German forum where someone posted source codes in 5 pictures made from a desktop screen, may be that was posted from a smartphone. Is this the new way of working you want to see more often?

The forum rules expect the user to post code together with the question. Lot of helpers here have the IDE running in parallel to be able to reproduce errors, apply fixes and answer with WORKING code. Do you really expect anyone will do this on a phone?

In other words, in my opinion it's a huge mistake not to optimize the layout for desktop users as it will disattraced helpers to contribute to this forum.

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