weedpharma:
Years ago, I took a few old drives that I had to destroy down to my farm. I lined 3 drives deep and used a .44 Magnum on them. Took the remains back to work and told them I had used the Magnum method of data destruction.Weedpharma
Was this before the no guns policy or does that policy not include .44 Magnums? (hehe)
GoForSmoke:
Was this before the no guns policy or does that policy not include .44 Magnums? (hehe)
Not a no guns policy, it is a controlled guns policy.
Note: it was legally owned and used. 
Weedpharma
weedpharma:
Not a no guns policy, it is a controlled guns policy.Note: it was legally owned and used.
Weedpharma
Liking Australia more every year.
Hi,
(Australian)
[soapbox]
I see these countries where an assault type rifle is legal, why? For legal "self defense".
Yet all I see are multiple deaths caused by "attacks" from these legal "defensive" guns.
The only time that these legal "defensive" guns help is when they are in the hands of the legal defenders of the law, so why are they legal to every weirdo on the street.
One weirdo can attack and kill innocent unarmed people, not just one, but more than 5 or 6, per incident and these rifles are nowhere around to defend them.
So why have them?
[/soapbox]
Tom..... 
TomGeorge:
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One weirdo can attack and kill innocent unarmed people, not just one, but more than 5 or 6, per incident and these rifles are nowhere around to defend them.
So why have them?
The question form the NRA is "Why aren't these people armed and able to defend themselves?"
I have mentioned firearms in a number of posts and defended the Australian laws. Thankfully there has only been support from Australians (and others).
Weedpharma
Hi,
The question from the NRA is "Why aren't these people armed and able to defend themselves?"
You have to ask why, the only reason I can think of is because THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN GUNS.
I agree with weedpharma that our gun laws seem to be doing the job.
Its a pity that the high gun offences in other countries has to highlight how effective ours have been.
Tom.....
TomGeorge:
Hi,
(Australian)[soapbox]
I see these countries where an assault type rifle is legal, why? For legal "self defense".
Most countries where they are allowed they have to be locked up so for a surprise assault not much good use for self defence.
Also the problem that an assailant may find and take it off you.
Only works if you have personal carry, i do not like the idea of everyone walking around like that.
Texans will probably disqgree.
TomGeorge:
Hi,You have to ask why, the only reason I can think of is because THEY DON'T WANT TO OWN GUNS.Tom.....
[/I want own but would not like to live in a society where everyone walked around with one.
I have always been intrigued by the wording of the Second Amendment to the US Constitution
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
It seems to me it may have been designed to permit people to defend themselves against the "well regulated militia" which is (presumably) under the control of the Government for "the security of a free state".
...R
TomGeorge:
Yet all I see are multiple deaths caused by "attacks" from these legal "defensive" guns.
You see what gets reported. It slants the view.
GoForSmoke:
Yet all I see are multiple deaths caused by "attacks" from these legal "defensive" guns.
You see what gets reported. It slants the view.
Are you suggesting that all the "single deaths" don't get reported, and if they did we would feel better about guns?
...R
I'm suggesting that you don't have the "whole story" and may find yourself making your own explanations to fit your view. And I'm suggesting that said view will be wrong in more cases than not unless it is generalized to the point of one size fits few uselessness.
The problem with having a no guns policy is that guns will only be in the hands of the lawbreakers (those who buy on the Black Market). When that happens on account of the no guns law the civilians will not be able to defend themselves. So, in other words, the no gun policy only works in theory. Violence is unavoidable. We can only control how we react to it.
I don't think Australia with a controlled guns policy has any more crime than the non controlled countries. The difference is crime is far less likely to end in death or major injury to either the victim or perpetrators.
There is also far less non crime related injury or deaths.
I accept that only the crooks have guns. But this is a very small percentage of the population and if found are subject to our legal system. Guns are not common so only very few crooks get hold of them. They are mainly used against each other!
There is probably little chance of gun control of any type coming into effect in USA. Likewise there is very little chance of Australians agreeing to free ownership of firearms.
And that is the way we like it.
Weedpharma
There is a lot less gun-related violence in Britain or Ireland which have strict gun controls compared to the USA. Including fewer gun injuries (or deaths) caused by law-enforcement personnel in the course of their duties.
...R
As a licensed owner, I will try to give the basics.
A firearm is licensed to a user. In general terms, you are only permitted to use a specific (serial number) firearm if it is noted on your license. It is permissible to have to he same firearm on multiple licenses. Farmers are permitted to hold a license and allow family and staff to use their firearm for specifically farming use without a license.
All firearms are to be stored in a firearms safe. There must be two locks on the door (keyed alike) and the ammunition must be stored in a separately locked safe (usually inside the main safe). The magazine must be unloaded.
There are different classes for firearms.
Air rifles are class A.
Basic single shot manual load and 10 shot magazine is class B.
Semi automatic rifles (small calibre) are class C. This class is restricted to primary producers.
Hand gun licenses are very restricted and only available to security guards etc and in some specific instances to farmers.
Automatic and "assault" weapons are not allowed for private use.
There are licenses available for gun club use and the firearm is stored at the club.
To get a license it is necessary to show a need. This can be a letter from two farms giving permission to shoot on the properties.
Each states their own laws but all are similar.
The following link is for a revue of the laws in West Australia.
It will give a good overview.
Weedpharma
This seems to be very similar to UK legislation.
You have to prove a need for the various classifications.
Primary producers ? I take that to mean farmers .?
Boardburner2:
Primary producers ? I take that to mean farmers .?
Yes, that is the terminology used.
Weedpharma
When my friend goes to her ATM, she always
brings along her Smith & Wesson!
She has never had any problems.
Smith is on the left!
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What sort of license do you require for them?
Weedpharma
