Heating solution for Thermostatic Water Tank

Hello,

I am trying to make a thermostatic water tank using an arduino. The tank will hold about a liter of water, maybe a little bit more.

However, I am kind of stuck when it comes to a solution to heat the water. I tried to use a relay to turn on a circuit that consisted of a battery leading to a thin wire that passed through the water. This was kind of a long shot, and unsurprisingly, it didn't work. The wire got hot, but simply did not heat up the water very effectively.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a heating solution I could use? The relay I have is a small hobby one and so I am not really comfortable with pushing much through it, and generally, I would welcome any solution that doesn't require me to deal with high voltages.

Thanks for your help.

Is this for drinking water?

No, it is not for drinking water.

How hot? How long should it take?

Dig out a glow plug, drill a hole in your container, mount the glow plug, apply generous silicon to seal, apply 12V to the glow plug. Now add in arduino, and parts for control of heating. How to Make Solar Water Heater Glow Plug Water Heater Diy Homemade Water Heater - YouTube

I would like it to get to at least 40 C, and as long as it takes less than about an hour to get to there, it would be fine.
Sorry for not including this stuff earlier.

Thanks for the suggestion about the glow plug Idahowalker. That might work. Do you think it might be overkill for 1-1.5 liters of water?

To raise the temperature of 1000 grams of water from room temperature (22C ?) to 40C (18 C) would take 18000 gram calories or about 21 Watt hours or 21 Watts for one hour. You might try something like this wrapped around the container.

Look up the specific heat capacity of water on Wikipedia.
Then calculate how much energy you need to heat up 1L+ of water 20+ degrees C in <=3600 sec.
I calculated almost 30watt to only get there in a 100% insulated vessel.
I would say you need at least 50watt to compensate for the heat loss, depending on room temp.
Leo..

sr_6:
Thanks for the suggestion about the glow plug Idahowalker. That might work. Do you think it might be overkill for 1-1.5 liters of water?

One concern I have is when the water reaches boiling, will the container keep pressure to prevent air bubbles forming and can the container hold the pressure created. My next concern is about what to use, and the mounting/placement of a temperature probe.

For a temperature probe, I'd use a diode and measure the reverse current, you can look it up on the internet. A diode temperature probe can be covered with epoxy resin. Next the hole made for the probe must be sealed.

All in all quite feasible.

Cheap coffee maker.
Has logic circuit and relay.
Relay on mine is 5v

Even if the relay is line voltage your small relay could control the coffee maker relay

So, I was figuring:
(1 liter of water = 1 kg of mass * 2.2 = 2.2 lbs) and (18°C = 32.4°F) so 2.2 * 32.4 = 71.28 BTU = 20.89 Wh.
What is the correct ISO expression for that amount of heat?

JCA34F,
The quantity of energy you refer to is 75.2kJ in SI units.

Idahowalker:
One concern I have is when the water reaches boiling, will the container keep pressure to prevent air bubbles forming and can the container hold the pressure created. My next concern is about what to use, and the mounting/placement of a temperature probe.

For a temperature probe, I'd use a diode and measure the reverse current, you can look it up on the internet. A diode temperature probe can be covered with epoxy resin. Next the hole made for the probe must be sealed.

All in all quite feasible.

Water doesn't boil at 40C.
Use a DS1820 sealed sensor, easy to interface and use.


Google arduino DS18B20
Tom... :slight_smile:

Hi,
I agree with @Wawa figure.
Using How to calculate the kW required to heat a volume of water in a particular time. | elementsofheating

Volume of water (Litres) * 4 * Change in Temp (Deg C)/ 3412= Power to heat in 1 hour.

As the OP quotes a bit more than 1Litre.
Water temp starting at 20C and increasing to 40C.

1.25 * 4 * 20 / 3412 = 0.029kW or 29W.

So at least 30W element, to avoid Murphy, I'd use a 50W.

Does the water need to be agitated to endure even heating?

Tom.... :slight_smile:

Amazon Prime has a 1.5 Quart (1.4 liters) "Slow Cooker" for $14 or a 2 Quart (1.89 liters) one for $15.07 if you don't mind the Captain America shield motif. :). Both have glass lids.

Just bypass the bimetallic thermostat with a relay module. I expect there is a thermal fuse to disable power if the temperature gets too high (above 110°C or so). Keep that part.

What is the use,
Sous Vide needs a tight tolerate on temperature
Circulation very beneficial.