N channel Logic-Level Gate Drive Mosfet

Good evening people,

I am more or less new to microelectronics but i really love to learn and create, so with the intro out of the way please forgive me for my ignorance and limited knowledge.

I want to create a DIY yogurt machine, i already have a 24v 200watt silicon heater and an arduino nano. What i am missing is a mosfet that could control the silicon heater over arduino with PWM.

Please if anyone has any mosfet to suggest or at least tell me what i have to look for in the data sheets to minimize my search scope. Let me also know if driving the silicon heater with that power consumption is even possible with a mosfet, i would like to avoid a mosfet driver if possible.

Thank you in advance.

Hi
Inform more details about what the MOSFET will act.
Current, voltage, inductive or non-inductive load, etc etc...

Have you searched the forum or google for "mosfet heater"?

The mosfet will control a 24v 200watt silicon heater, so 8.3amp DC. The mosfet will be PWM controlled over arduino nano.

Here is a MOSFET driver circuit.

What? The MOSFET has to be part-of a driver circuit.

200W / 24V = 8.3 Amps so your MOSFET should be rated for ~10Amps or more and it will probably need a heatsink.

Another option is a relay, but then you'll need a relay driver circuit. You can buy "relay boards" with a built-in relay and driver. Relays don't work with PWM but....

PWM is not normally used with heating or cooling. The temperature can't change instantly so normally power is switched-on if the temperature is below-target, and off when it's above-target. That's how the heater in your house works and how your refrigerator works, etc.

There is also normally some "swing" or "hysteresis". That means it goes a little over-target before switching off and slightly below-target before switching on again. (It can be 1/10th of degree or something like that, if it's critical.) That way it's not turning-on & off several times a minute or several times a second. That's OK with a MOSFET but you don't want a relay to "chatter".

I think i expressed myself wrong. What i meant by "mosfet driver" is actually gate driver, i would prefer the mosfet to be Logic Level so i can directly hook it up to arduino.

Ok thanx for the advice will avoid PWM, anything else i should pay attention to besides the current rating of a mosfet?

Looking for the right mosfet is so hard for me. Anyways, after lots of looking around i found this one: IRLZ44

Seems to be Logic Level and support enough Amps.

Correct me if i am wrong please.
Thanx in advance.

IRL3705 has lower Rds, .018Ω @ 4Vgs, might get away without heat sink.
IRL3705
How do you plan to control temperature and heater power?

Hi,
IRLZ44 Rds on = 0.028Ω Vgs = 5V, Load at 8.3 A power dissipation == 8.3 x 0.028 = 296mW

IRL3705 Rds on = 0.018Ω Vgs = 4V, Load at at 8.3 A power dissipation == 8.3 x 0.018 = 149mW

Tom... :grinning: :+1: :coffee: :australia:
PS, Which ever is easiest to source in these semiconductor barren times.

Right Tom, didn't notice the "out of stock" on DigiKey, looks like Mouser has it.
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Infineon-IR/IRL3705NPBF?qs=sGAEpiMZZMsbRVlHDoeFZGgmduIJ%252BuMjX4xml%252B1lgDU%3D

Thanx a lot guys for the suggestions. IRL3705 is looking better indeed.

What about IRF3708

Based on your calculations this one is 0.0135Ω @4.5v == 8.3 x 0.0135=112mW
Seems to be better am i correct? Also available in my country.

For starters i plan on using a thermistor with PID control over arduino, i am not sure how accurate the thermistor will be, i really need to have stable temperatures since the yogurt fermentation process requires a stable and precise temperature.

I just noticed that IRF3708 can operate RDS on @10v, but can still output enough amps for my project even at 4.5v does that affect the operating temperature of the mosfet itself? Avoiding a heatsink would be ideal.

What will you do to control EMI emissions from the switching circuit?

I would like to have it at least prototyped in its basic form to make further plans, this is my 1st project that will have some useful application. If you have any suggestions regarding EMI filtering i would love to hear it.

Thank you.

It's extremely difficult and complex. What I am actually saying is, don't do it. Your "useful application" might not be so useful if it interferes with, for example, emergency communications like fire and ambulance services, or broadcast radio.

Look for some engineered module that handles all that for you.

I think you got it wrong, i just want to make some yogurt for myself to eat :slight_smile:
I am not going to sell it. I just want something basic that will keep a stable temperature for 6 hours.

Why do you need PWM for that? Wouldn't a simple thermostat do it? See reply #5.

Based on you logic noone should ever prototype anything cause we might interfere with emergency communications, please this is not helping me in any way. I am not against creating safe stuff, i am all in for that and like i said, if u have any suggestions then go ahead and let me know what do u have in mind, your advice of "dont do it" is not helping me in any way.

Good lord i am just trying to create a basic arduino PID controlled temperature device.

Ok u are just trolling, i said, i will use PID a couple of posts later, as it was suggested to me.

No I am not trolling. I am quite serious. PID is complete overkill for this, and you don't have sufficient knowledge to build a non RF emitter.

Who suggested PID, besides yourself? I don't see it.