Tracking object movement - camera distance solution

Hello
Before I start, I am not an engineer and my question is about finding out what is possible or just how naive is my idea is.

Preamble :
I am a film maker who makes films on his own. Of all the technical challenges, my greatest is keeping people in focus. In film, this is called follow focus. There are some commercial solutions to solve this issue.

  1. In camera / lens Autofocus

  2. Use a technician called a Focus Puller with a manual handle or systems using simple stepper motor controllers to object recognition systems
    https://www.motiondogs.com/wireless-lens-control-systems/144-lenzhound.html
    https://www.qinematiq.com/focus-on-our-products/image

  3. Use camera tape measure systems like cinetape.
    Cinematography Electronics - Products
    https://cmotion.eu/page/cdistance
    Halo Explorer Real-Time Rangefinder and Focus Tracking – Redrock Micro | Cinema Gear – Filmmaking Solutions

These solutions often go for thousands of dollars and I am sure that there is a reason for this. But many of these solutions are not adapted for one man band film makers like me.

Problem :
How to track objects to deduce their distance, using an Arduino?

Thoughts :
I started my thoughts supposing that the new smart phones with Lidar style scanning could map areas in real time and track objects, but I soon realised that was more science fiction than fact.

Then I stumbled across the system below :
https://www.andra.com/products/radius/

This system creates a wifi network that tracks actors etc using emitters attached to them and with a receiver attached to the camera, giving a very accurate positioning. I think this is called Wifi Positioning System (WPS)
Arduino has wifi and displays, so probably naively, I wondered if this was feasible project or just more science- fiction?

Any thoughts would most welcome in understanding what is possible .. or not ?
Many thanks

Is this for indoors or outdoors?

For outdoors, RTK GPS offers 1 cm accuracy, about $400 for one tracked object.

For indoors, Pozyx offers 10 cm accuracy, about $700 for one tracked object. Setup with anchor beacons covers one room.

Both are Arduino compatible. I'll bet the Andra system is much, much more expensive.

That is very interesting. Thank you so much.

Naively, I was thinking of something based on wifi or bluetooth where a connection is made and distance can be calculated . I even wowndered why it could not be done via 2 mobile phones.

The Andra system was retailing at about 14K USD. I am not really sure who buys it but it does work well.

I have read that the Bluetooth 5.1 protocol has the possibility to calculate distance and direction to within a 1 cm and has a potential range of 50 metres

chlowden:
I have read that the Bluetooth 5.1 protocol has the possibility to calculate distance and direction to within a 1 cm and has a potential range of 50 metres

https://www.cbronline.com/news/bluetooth-5-1

Has anyone released a working platform yet, and if so how much does it cost ?

I found this product that claims to be BT 5.1 compliant :
BL653 Series Bluetooth 5.1 + 802.15.4 + NFC Module

https://no.mouser.com/Search/Refine?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=167821291

1cm resolution implies a timing resolution of better than 33 picoseconds.
Your mobile phone might get close, but don't hold your breath for a cheap microcontroller.

To be honest, I am starting to play at being an engineer, which I am not.
So, in short, I deduce from these exchanges that the tech I am pondering does not really currently exist .

chlowden:
I found this product that claims to be BT 5.1 compliant :
BL653 Series Bluetooth 5.1 + 802.15.4 + NFC Module
BL653 Series Bluetooth 5.1 + 802.15.4 + NFC Module
https://no.mouser.com/Search/Refine?Ntk=P_MarCom&Ntt=167821291

Having a Bluetoothe 5.1 compliant adapter is but a small part of the setup.

You still need the central controller\receiver and phased antenna array setups to make it work, are those available to buy ?

chlowden:
So, in short, I deduce from these exchanges that the tech I am pondering does not really currently exist .

Maybe not yet.

That the capability to do this sort of location has been put into the Bluetooth 5.1 standard is good, but it does sound like it needs a fair bit of other stuff to provide the actual localisation and its the sort of stuff which does not sound 'low cost'

The options set out in Reply #1 are currently available, and they work.

Anything else at comparable price is fantasy at this point.

Thank you so much for your thoughts.
Look after yourselves.Thank you

chlowden:
To be honest, I am starting to play at being an engineer, which I am not.
So, in short, I deduce from these exchanges that the tech I am pondering does not really currently exist .

SX1280 LoRa devices measure distance with a special packet exchange. Whilst its good for measuring long distances, the distance record is 89km, its not so good at short sub 100m distances. You can get distance variations of a few metres.
The main issue appears to be the stability of the fixed delays in the system as in the time it takes for the ranging packet to be received and the reply transmitted in the slave device. This fixed time needs to be subtracted from the total time to get the time of flight. A TCXO based SX1280 seems to help, but its doubtful you could get much better than 1m resolution.

Well it looks like DJI are onto a similar idea using lidar tech :