Water valve control.

I'm trying to control water flow from this pump. I'm trying to control the direction of where the water flows.

12V 60W pump

So far I've used these solenoids to achieve this.

Solenoids

These did not work as they were not able to handle the pressure from the pump and would leak as if the solenoids were not there.

I had an idea of using these ball valves attached to a servo.

Ball valve

But after going into my local hobby shop was told that the servo would need to provide at least 20kg/cm to turn it. The servos he suggested would put me over budget. It would also end up cheaper for me to buy these which would also put me over budget.

Electric ball valve

If anyone could give me other suggestions to look into it would be much appreciated.

Hi; How much pressure from pump when all valves closed??

Is it your code? Turn off the pump when all valves closed?

Typical "irrigation" valves (I have 3 running my home irrigation system) are 24VAC and a relay controls them nicely. I use THESE.

They require 24VAC to actuate and I use a small transformer like these

How much pressure from pump when all valves closed??

It should supply a max of 0.8 Mpa or about 116PPI. The solenoids I purchased are rated at 0.8Mpa, so I am pushing them to the limit.

Is it your code? Turn off the pump when all valves closed?

The solenoids are N/C (Normally closed) with no power. I've connected the solenoids to a tap/faucet, opened the tap/faucet fully and the solenoids work ok.

Thank you for the link for the irrigation valves. I will look into how these work.

well that makes two of us, i am off devising a 'smart' standalone water dispenser ( for city water distribution points ) that's using 12v 1/2" valves for the on/off control, haven't yet put it on field , what's puzzling me more is what to switch to in case this 'solenoid valve' issues a leakage, spec'd at 0.02-0.8 mpa

some one advised to go for electric ball valve (12V) which shows some weird features when i went through the datasheet, like open/close times being too much (~10 secs) , with maximum of like few operating cycles in an hour which quite makes it unsuitable for 'public' dispenser - case , plus cost being too much high

any advise would be appreciated

The problem of using simple solenoid valves with irrigation water is trash in the valves. If the water is completely free of solid material of any size, the valves will work. The plastic valves may be suspect, but have been used in domestic washing machines for years with out problems.

If your plastic valve is leaking, then take it apart and determine why it is leaking and fix it.

Paul

The problem of using simple solenoid valves with irrigation water is trash in the valves. If the water is completely free of solid material of any size, the valves will work. The plastic valves may be suspect, but have been used in domestic washing machines for years with out problems.

The water being used at the moment is tap water, this is until I have it running correctly. I think the problem I'm having with the solenoid is the pressure rating on the pump or the solenoid is incorrect. Either the pump is creating too much pressure, the solenoid can't handle the pressure it's rated at or both.

With the ball valve I have purchased I can take off the lever. So, at the moment I'm printing some gears and thinking about using stepper motors to open and close the valve.

some one advised to go for electric ball valve (12V) which shows some weird features when i went through the datasheet, like open/close times being too much (~10 secs) , with maximum of like few operating cycles in an hour which quite makes it unsuitable for 'public' dispenser - case , plus cost being too much high

I don't know how reliable or quick the ball valve will be with a stepper motor. But if I get it working I'll let you know if you are interested.

Ppl39:
The water being used at the moment is tap water, this is until I have it running correctly. I think the problem I'm having with the solenoid is the pressure rating on the pump or the solenoid is incorrect. Either the pump is creating too much pressure, the solenoid can't handle the pressure it's rated at or both.

With the ball valve I have purchased I can take off the lever. So, at the moment I'm printing some gears and thinking about using stepper motors to open and close the valve.

I don't know how reliable or quick the ball valve will be with a stepper motor. But if I get it working I'll let you know if you are interested.

Did you actually connect the ball valve to the pump output? When turned off, did the pump stop when the pressure limit was reached?

Paul

Ppl39:
The water being used at the moment is tap water, this is until I have it running correctly. I think the problem I'm having with the solenoid is the pressure rating on the pump or the solenoid is incorrect. Either the pump is creating too much pressure, the solenoid can't handle the pressure it's rated at or both.

With the ball valve I have purchased I can take off the lever. So, at the moment I'm printing some gears and thinking about using stepper motors to open and close the valve.

I don't know how reliable or quick the ball valve will be with a stepper motor. But if I get it working I'll let you know if you are interested.

yes i am deeply interested