Do "gas boilers", or gas-powered boilers, have a reset button? This would be a pushbutton, I guess, where a unit that has tripped and re-starts by pushing the button. (Not the same as a pilot re-light intervention.)
I think such a thing is only placed on an electric unit (as a 'circuit breaker').
This is an image from a tutorial on how to reset a Remeha Avanta:
I found it here. The relevant text roughly translates to: "To reset the device, press and hold the "R" button for three seconds."
What is that?
Yup, when the chamber gets too much pressure, when the sensor shows low fuel pressure, when the air intake is retarded, when the pump makes on the alarm wire, when the ignition fails, when you've run out of fuel and need to bleed the system.
I had oil or gas furnaces installed in the 100+ homes that I built and remodeled in my career as a projects manager. I had to be familiar with the operations and troubleshooting of each and every component that went into those homes.
If you're concerned. I'm the one who flagged the previous post. Not because of what you said, but because it ran the risk of burning OP's house down.
It could be Reset into a catastrophe ?
My Reply (opining generalities) was Too Dangerous or the Topic was Too Dangerous ?
Explaining how to build an autoreset for a system where tripping into reset mode is a safety device that allows the system to purge or to warn the user that there exists a dangerous condition is very dangerous.
The standard reply to a customer calling about having to reset their furnace is, "Have you had to reset it recently?"
If they answer yes, then you dispatch an immediate service call. Multiple resets needed within a week of each other signal a dangerous condition that needs correction.
I hope that clears it up for you. I and other do value your opinions, you usually give great replies, and your suggestion was right on, but implementing it would have created a dangerous condition, similar to removing a carbon monoxide alarm because it keeps going off.
Amazing. Nowhere does it state to Not push the button, Sometimes it klinks so push the danged button. Wow. It doesn't seem like it can be Reset into a catastrophe then.
Maybe get an error code - or don't - and push the magic button.
I did no such thing and you know it.
I did in fact counsel against automating any such thing.
Too bad, The Truth was Deleted. Which is the best part, right?
The Rehana manual explains how pushing the 'R' button is no big deal, every once in a while - that's life (or something).
I politely disagree. Even mentioning the parts necessary to do the job was dangerous in my opinion.
As you've demonstrated, you really don't understand oil and gas burners. It's ok to make a mistake, but it's not ok for experts to leave that up and create a potentially dangerous situation.
I don't want to argue with you, and I don't want to disrespect you, because there's a lot that you contribute. Just not in this one particular case.
Please try to let it go and have a good day.
It does say in the manual that if the error persists, the cause of the problem should be found.
I agree it is a bit weird that they do not mention this on that website. Repairing these things is how they make money after all.
And here we go, Covers Down, Lights On --
Very much so, that you'd let pride get in the way of common sense.
If it was supposed to have an automatic reset don't you think that they would have built one in?
All modern gas boilers have a reset.
What happens if you reset the boiler is that the boiler goes through a series of checks. This simply is.
Firstly the system checks the water pump has come on and the water flow switch has closed. If there is no water flow the boiler locks out.
Secondly the boiler will start the fan and pull fresh air inyo the system purging any remaining gas out of the system. Possible fault the air flow switch does not close or the fan does not operate.
Thirdly if no fault is detected the boiler will then open the gas valve, wait a couple of seconds and then the igniter will operate and fire the boiler up, if no flame is detected the boiler locks out.
Everytime you reset the boiler it will follow the above sequence, locking out on any failure, thus it has different fault codes for different failures.
Making an automated reset will never clear the problem part.
Stop already.
It's about Principle.
Put on your thinking cap:
It has a button. If pushing a button posed a threat to life, limb or property then it wouldn't be there - contending otherwise, as you have, makes no sense.
There's no way it could be button-pushed into a catastrophe.
You've contributed your two cents, so take a powder.
Well thanks for clearing that up. You're a mensch.
It cannot be Reset into catastrophe.
Doubtless, it's "trying to tell you something", and it's not the Ultimate Solution (I never said it was).
@runaway_pancake
When this all happens and the gas or oil is not ignighted, what do you think happens to it?
What happens if you reset it over and over, with no time between?
And what happens if your ignition source is intermittent?
What happens if a person or a child is standing next to the boiler and pressing reset repeatedly? I would imagine user controls have some sort of fool proof otherwise they wouldn’t pass certification
As I understand it your concerns are BS. Any of those eventualities make a No-Go. The Man said so.
All the people you're so worried about could click it like crazy, too. Not your problem. But, still, "see above".
Anyway, Peace & Love, and have a wonderful day, man.
If you really want to do this, the boiler circuit normally only allows a reset in lockout, you would need to create a way of telling when the boiler circuit was in lockout.
But creating an automatic reset would cost you money if the boiler does not fire up, you would be running a pump, a fan and if it is an ignition problem you would be releasing some unburt gas into the atmosphere everytime without heating any water.
Some boilers do have a three try reset circuitry after failure before they finally lock out, however when they do lockout you need a manual reset.
This three try option would be the circuitry to change to indefinate tries to reignite the boiler, if you wanted to waste money though thats the way to go, believe me it's cheaper to get the boiler repair man round in the long term.
