So I was having a horrible time using my arduino boards when they had worked previously.
Did all the running around of creating udev rules and such to no effect. I would not be able to select a port for the connection.
Then I remembered I rolled my own kernel since last time I played with them so I went back to my previous kernel and it worked as normal.
Any others had a problem with a somewhat recent 4.10 kernel?
Sorry is wrong place to post but figured this is where others might try if having same issue.