Problem with MOSFET module

Hello,

I am attempting to create a 24V PWM signal using an arduino and an external 24V power supply.

To do so, I am using a VMA411 Mosfet module ( https://www.velleman.eu/downloads/29/vma411_a4v01.pdf ). When I try to create a signal the PWM in arduino works well (Getting around 2.5V of effective voltage at 127 bits). But the output of the module stays at 24V. I am measuring effective voltages with a tester because I don't have access to an oscilloscope.

Checking the specs of the mosfet of the module (IRF520) I have seen that it is not a logic level mosfet but it should be working for <2A load current (It is about 100mA).

I am not familiar with mosfets so i don't know if I am doing something wrong or the module is not suitable for my set-up.

Thank you for your time.

Can you post a circuit diagram showing exactly how you have the 24V power supply and motor connected and how the Arduino is powered and connected to the module.

Does the LED on the module light up?

Steve

I have seen that it is not a logic level mosfet but it should be working for <2A load current

No it says

Fig 3. Typical Transfer Characteristics

It is not a guarantee for any individual part.

That module is absolutely rubbish. If that were in the UK they could be prosecuted for false advertising.

But the output of the module stays at 24V

Are you saying the mosfet is always ON, or always OFF ? (WHAT is the Drain to Source voltage ?)(0V, or 24V ?)

Have tried testing the mosfet with a meter on diode scale (with power off of course) ?
(can you confirm it is not shorted ?)

I don't see a schematic for your setup.
The link for the mosfet doesn't tell us enough about what you are doing .

According to this thread , that
breakout board seems to work , even if it is not a logic level mosfet.

slipstick:
Can you post a circuit diagram showing exactly how you have the 24V power supply and motor connected and how the Arduino is powered and connected to the module.

Does the LED on the module light up?

Steve

This is the diagram of the circuit.

The module works the same way without Arduino's +5V, i attached it when I saw it was not working.

The LED in the module lights up with variable intensity according to the PWM i am applying to the arduino, as it should.

raschemmel:
Are you saying the mosfet is always ON, or always OFF ? (WHAT is the Drain to Source voltage ?)(0V, or 24V ?)

It is always ON, for whichever PWM I apply the voltage between V+ and V- is always 24V. The Drain to Source voltage is 24V.

raschemmel:
Have tried testing the mosfet with a meter on diode scale (with power off of course) ?
(can you confirm it is not shorted ?)

I will confirm tomorrow because now i don't have access to the prototype. But i tried the same setup in two brand-new modules (I got them out of the box) and it doesn't work in none of them.

raschemmel:
I don't see a schematic for your setup.
The link for the mosfet doesn't tell us enough about what you are doing .

I posted one just above.

raschemmel:
According to this thread , that
breakout board seems to work , even if it is not a logic level mosfet.

Yes, I've read about people who uses this mosfet without problems and others don't. Maybe in my case i don't have the conditions for the mosfet to work.

Yes, I've read about people who uses this mosfet without problems and others don't. Maybe in my case i don't have the conditions for the mosfet to work.

Yes, I've read about people who uses this mosfet without problems and others don't. Maybe in my case i don't have the conditions for the mosfet to work.

Seeing as the only thing you have told us is your mosfet V+ voltage (24V), there not much I can say
about conditions. It might help if you told us your load current .

raschemmel:
Seeing as the only thing you have told us is your mosfet V+ voltage (24V), there not much I can say
about conditions. It might help if you told us your load current .

It is around 100 mA.

It is around 100 mA.

That being the case, my initial response is to ask you what possessed you to order a mosfet module
rated for 5A to handle a 100mA load ? Does that not seem like overkill to you ?

A 2N2222 metal can transistor is rated for 800 mA (with the appropriate heatsink Wakefield USA Transistor Heatsink TO-18 TO-72 -28 -40 -44 Board Level Power (x1) | eBay)

It is not good practice to use a switching device that is rated for 50x your load current. (for a number of
reasons, starting with "it makes no sense".

I would recommend you "rethink" your design and find something rated for 500mA to 1A maximum.

I will leave it to others to explain why using a device rated for 50 times your load current is not way to
go.

As far as why your mosfet doesn't seem to be working , your comment:

I am measuring effective voltages with a tester because I don't have access to an oscilloscope.

was not accompanied by the following data:

  1. Vgs= _____ (Gate to Source voltage)
  2. Vds= _____ (Drain to Source Voltage)
  3. Ids _____ (Drain Source current)

?

raschemmel:
That being the case, my initial response is to ask you what possessed you to order a mosfet module
rated for 5A to handle a 100mA load ? Does that not seem like overkill to you ?

A 2N2222 metal can transistor is rated for 800 mA (with the appropriate heatsink Wakefield USA Transistor Heatsink TO-18 TO-72 -28 -40 -44 Board Level Power (x1) | eBay)

It is not good practice to use a switching device that is rated for 50x your load current. (for a number of
reasons, starting with "it makes no sense".

I would recommend you "rethink" your design and find something rated for 500mA to 1A maximum.

I will leave it to others to explain why using a device rated for 50 times your load current is not way to
go.

I know, but these are the only mosfets I have as spare parts and if I can't avoid it I won't purchase more. Which MOSFET would you recommend driving that load?

Well if we're going to ignore maximum ratings, then this one should work:
FQP30N06L

You haven't told us what you have so we can't comment on which would be best.

raschemmel:
That being the case, my initial response is to ask you what possessed you to order a mosfet module
rated for 5A to handle a 100mA load ? Does that not seem like overkill to you ?

Not in the slightest, you never choose a MOSFET by current rating, always by on-resistance. Running anywhere
near the current max requires huge heatsinks, never contemplate it.

I submit that if you actally looked at the datasheet and actually know the pinout of the device and measured 24V from Drain to Source with a meter then you must conclude the mosfet is always OFF , not always ON because if it was on the voltage would be close to zero and there would be current flowing . You have not reported Drain Source current and I don't see your load nor have you stated what your load is or where it is (it's not in the schematic.