Pulsed frequency modulation

Hi, so I’m struggling to find a thread that currently exists if it does through the search, but I’m trying to build a controller that works somewhat like pulsed Doppler radar, but with three channels that are relative to one another.

I believe I need to use 3 tied pwm controllers to act as a switch for 3 separate frequency generators. Each channel will operate on 33.33% duty cycles in khz range and each “on” will need to be a changeable set frequency in the microwave range. Final signals out can be in mV

Pulsed frequency illustration:
—-llll——llll—— ch 1 out
——-llll——llll— ch 2 out
-llll——llll——llll ch 3 out
Time>>>>>>>>>

I just don’t know where to start. I feel like using arduino is the right direction. Any input is greatly appreciated! Thanks! As a side note. I don’t know any programming.

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No Arduino can generate such frequencies. You'll have to find microwave generators with programmable frequency and microwave ON/OFF switches.

The switches can be programmed from software on any Arduino. Programming the frequency generators can be more difficult due to timing requirements.

More after you have found suitable microwave components.

Hi, @uncut
Welcome to the forum.

Can you tell us what your project is exactly?
It will help with any solution there may be.

Can you please tell us your electronics, programming, arduino, hardware experience?

Thanks.. Tom... :grinning: :+1: :coffee: :australia:

Here's a microwave oscillator that covers the 3.822-3.960 GHz part of the S band in 500 kHz steps. Only $217 each!

The "data sheet" is a joke. It does not even indicate how a frequency can be selected and how long it takes for the new frequency to stabilize.

I understand how Doppler works, but why three channels? What sensor do you use to detect the Doppler shift? And Why 3 channels? The microwave output of a single channel will wipe out a nearby receiver for the other channels.

Never mind, just another XY Problem. :grin:

I wonder why we are getting a mass of these postings or are they a result of too much time spent thinking and no time spent doing?

The output signals are very very weak. A max strength of 1 volt rms and max amperage of 10mA. I was using radar as a comparison to the signal output form, but I may have botched the description. Im not actually building a radar transmitter/receiver. Just three pulsed signal generators/transmitters. I’m looking to pulse a high frequency(microwave) at a lower frequency(1khz-.5mghz). And I want to be able to phase lock them from the same master clock.

I was thinking using a microcontroller to send square wave signals to three relays/MOSFETs that would kick on 3 signal generators circuit open. However bc of the high frequency of pulse, there would need to be a really fast response time from the frequency generator which may limit the pulsed signal frequency. Thinking maybe to have the signal generators always on/generating and use mosfets as a switch to toggle the signal being dumped to outgoing components and an impedance matched resistor.

I found a great link for multiple ways to go about achieving this on a more sophisticated level I may go this way instead but mine seems more simple bc I can understand it better so I think I’ll start with that. Anyway if anyone is interested they can find it on “microwaves101” website

Thanks for all the response!

Are going to connect this to some type of antenna? What is the purpose and have you applied for a license for the frequency you want to use?

You are trying to pulse modulate a microwave carrier.

What is the frequency of the pulse?
Not 1000Hz to 500Mhz?

Thanks.. Tom... :grinning: :+1: :coffee: :australia:

TomGeorge,

Thank you for catching that. Microwave pulsed at 1hz- 15khz max. My math was wayyyyy wrong lmao. :pray::+1:t3:

Paul,

You’ll have to check into the earlier part of this thread bc I was clear that the output would be very minuscule. Nothing even close to needing a license or informing the feds :joy::joy: I’m not that cool, nor do I have the time and money. This is all small scale hobby lab experiments buddy.

Are you using such a thing as a radar speed detector? Is your device set up for pulse operation? How are going to apply the pulses?

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