Uno's unable to upload via ISP anymore?

corpeder · January 19, 2019, 9:25pm

Hey everyone first of thx for taking the time to read this!

ok so i have a problem i can no longer burn bootloaders or sketches to my pro minis with my unos

i make ps1 modchips with the pro minis and iv done many so i know my wiring is ok i know my pro minis are ok as i can still program them with serial usb

ive tested with two unos same results

im at a loss...

here is my log dump via ISP

C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\tools\avr/bin/avrdude -CC:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\tools\avr/etc/avrdude.conf -v -patmega328p -carduino -PCOM3 -b19200 -e -Ulock:w:0x3F:m -Uefuse:w:0xFD:m -Uhfuse:w:0xDE:m -Ulfuse:w:0xFF:m

System wide configuration file is "C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\tools\avr/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : COM3
Using Programmer : arduino
Overriding Baud Rate : 19200
AVR Part : ATmega328P
Chip Erase delay : 9000 us
PAGEL : PD7
BS2 : PC2
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 20 4 0 no 1024 4 0 3600 3600 0xff 0xff
flash 65 6 128 0 yes 32768 128 256 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
efuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
calibration 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : Arduino
Description : Arduino
Hardware Version: 2
Firmware Version: 1.18
Topcard : Unknown
Vtarget : 0.0 V
Varef : 0.0 V
Oscillator : Off
SCK period : 0.1 us

avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)

Error while burning bootloader.
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000
avrdude: Yikes! Invalid device signature.
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

avrdude done. Thank you.

i know this is typical of bad wiring or bad chip but iv done 100's of successful uploads then one day it stopped working...

system · January 19, 2019, 9:33pm

i make ps1 modchips with the pro minis

Wow! Is there still money in that?

corpeder · January 19, 2019, 9:41pm

oh kinda the real money is in the send-in service.

pert · January 19, 2019, 10:09pm

In recent times, usually the "one day it stopped working" problem with Arduino as ISP is this:

github.com/arduino/Arduino

Arduino nightly 2018/09/20 02:27 : "ArduinoAsISP" upload fail

opened 05:09AM - 26 Sep 18 UTC

closed 01:19PM - 19 Dec 18 UTC

pierre83

Component: Uploading

Hi, Uploading a barebone ATMEga328P with a NANO (my case) is impossible because… in the file "programmers.txt" the following lines seems to be wrong: "arduinoasisp.protocol=arduino" & "arduinoasisp.program.protocol=arduino" and should be "arduinoasisp.protocol=stk500v1 & "arduinoasisp.program.protocol=stk500v1" When uploading, the symptom is: Using Port : COM4 Using Programmer : arduino Overriding Baud Rate : 19200 avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x15 avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x15 and further: avrdude: stk500_getparm(): (a) protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x14

In Arduino AVR Boards 1.6.22 and newer, the protocol used for Arduino as ISP has changed from stk500v1 to arduino (and I can see from your output the arduino protocol is being used). This caused problems for some people whose Arduino as ISP worked fine without disabling the auto-reset before the protocol change. They may not have associated the problem with an update they did of Arduino AVR Boards or the Arduino IDE. The solution is to roll back to Arduino AVR Boards 1.6.21 or to put a 10 uF capacitor between reset and ground on the Arduino as ISP.

However, I don't associate the "Device signature = 0x000000" issue with the thing I described above. Even so, it's easy enough to give it a try just in case.

corpeder · January 19, 2019, 10:43pm

hmmm thanks for the info

what would cause Device signature = 0x000000?

here is a picture of my wiring

[Album] imgur.com

a log dump of my arduino as isp being created

System wide configuration file is "C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\avrdude\6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : COM3
Using Programmer : arduino
Overriding Baud Rate : 115200
AVR Part : ATmega328P
Chip Erase delay : 9000 us
PAGEL : PD7
BS2 : PC2
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 20 4 0 no 1024 4 0 3600 3600 0xff 0xff
flash 65 6 128 0 yes 32768 128 256 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
efuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
calibration 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : Arduino
Description : Arduino
Hardware Version: 3
Firmware Version: 4.4
Vtarget : 0.3 V
Varef : 0.3 V
Oscillator : 28.800 kHz
SCK period : 3.3 us

avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x1e950f (probably m328p)
avrdude: reading input file "C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex"
avrdude: writing flash (4420 bytes):

Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.64s

avrdude: 4420 bytes of flash written
avrdude: verifying flash memory against C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex:
avrdude: load data flash data from input file C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex:
avrdude: input file C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex contains 4420 bytes
avrdude: reading on-chip flash data:

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.50s

avrdude: verifying ...
avrdude: 4420 bytes of flash verified

avrdude done. Thank you.

and a log dump of pro-mini over serial usb

System wide configuration file is "C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\avrdude\6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : COM7
Using Programmer : arduino
Overriding Baud Rate : 57600
AVR Part : ATmega328P
Chip Erase delay : 9000 us
PAGEL : PD7
BS2 : PC2
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 20 4 0 no 1024 4 0 3600 3600 0xff 0xff
flash 65 6 128 0 yes 32768 128 256 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
efuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
calibration 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : Arduino
Description : Arduino
Hardware Version: 3
Firmware Version: 5.0
Vtarget : 0.3 V
Varef : 0.3 V
Oscillator : 28.800 kHz
SCK period : 3.3 us

avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.01s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x1e950f (probably m328p)
avrdude: reading input file "C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex"
avrdude: writing flash (4420 bytes):

Writing | ################################################## | 100% 1.84s

avrdude: 4420 bytes of flash written
avrdude: verifying flash memory against C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex:
avrdude: load data flash data from input file C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex:
avrdude: input file C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Temp\arduino_build_621483/ArduinoISP.ino.hex contains 4420 bytes
avrdude: reading on-chip flash data:

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 1.89s

avrdude: verifying ...
avrdude: 4420 bytes of flash verified

avrdude done. Thank you.

corpeder · January 19, 2019, 11:14pm

and a log dump of pro mini over arduino as isp

System wide configuration file is "C:\Users\jrunner\AppData\Local\Arduino15\packages\arduino\tools\avrdude\6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : COM3
Using Programmer : stk500v1
Overriding Baud Rate : 19200
AVR Part : ATmega328P
Chip Erase delay : 9000 us
PAGEL : PD7
BS2 : PC2
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 20 4 0 no 1024 4 0 3600 3600 0xff 0xff
flash 65 6 128 0 yes 32768 128 256 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
efuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
calibration 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : STK500
Description : Atmel STK500 Version 1.x firmware
Hardware Version: 2
Firmware Version: 1.18
Topcard : Unknown
Vtarget : 0.0 V
Varef : 0.0 V
Oscillator : Off
SCK period : 0.1 us

avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.02s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)

Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.02s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000 (retrying)

An error occurred while uploading the sketch
Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.02s

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000
avrdude: Yikes! Invalid device signature.
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

avrdude done. Thank you.

iv tested on 3 pro minis now all report

avrdude: Device signature = 0x000000

DrAzzy · January 19, 2019, 11:54pm

Generally 0x000000 sig indicates a wiring problem, or that the target chip is configured to use an external crystal but none is present. Since you say the pro mini's are working via USB, that eliminates the second possibility, leaving only one: Your wiring is wrong. I suppose it's also possible that one of the SPI pins (specifically MISO) on the programmer is blown somehow?

I'd be suspicious that one of your jumper wires is bad or something. Check continuity with multimeter on every pin (I usually do it from the pin on the microcontroller on the programmer to the pin on the target micro - this way, whether the problem is the wire, or a solder joint somewhere, or whatever - you'll catch it.

pert · January 20, 2019, 12:14am

corpeder's pictures:

The system of poking dupont connectors into the holes on the Pro Mini seems very unreliable and inefficient.

Since you're doing so many of these, I recommend taking the time to make an adapter with conical tip pogo pins. If you want to get really fancy, you could make a full-on programming jig but even a simple adapter you press onto the board by hand will work well enough.

corpeder · January 20, 2019, 12:26am

here is my wiring

[Album] imgur.com

and continuity check out so not my wires iv switched out the wires just to be sure

this is the schematic im using

iv even soldered connections directly

corpeder · January 20, 2019, 12:39am

different mini, better wiring, same issue... probing with multimeter checks out.

[Album]

corpeder · January 20, 2019, 11:59pm

welp im still looking for help if anyone still has any to offer...

thx

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