What sort of Woke nonsense is this?

Well Arduino actually are.

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Everyone has a navel, let’s use Outie and Innie :thinking:

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I agree that most of us clearly get the difference and don't see slavery has something great. It was totally wrong...

I asked the question to my daughter to see what she thinks. She said

you play with male and female connectors. Would you be OK if the term "rape" instead of "mate" had been used for decades to describe connecting the two? (forcing one into the other - no consent asked she joked)

I must say it would indeed feel weird.

Her view was that "connecting" existed ( from Latin connectere, from con- ‘together’ + nectere ‘bind’.) so why did engineers at the time chose to use also "mating" anyway...

So her point was that words do matter and some people are more sensitive to what that evokes than other. Our world is full of sexual references or war terms in sales etc... and that's not really needed, it does not make things clearer and It can be a barrier to entry to women in Tech or Sales for example.

So whilst I don't see evil in those terms, I can understand the point of view.

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If beauty is in the eye of the beholder then so is evil?

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In Europe, they raise rape for seed and the oil. In North America they raise canola for the same products.

It use to be called rape seed but the wheat board changed the name to more politically correct, Canola, about 45 years back.

of course outside English speaking countries "rape" does not mean the same thing. In French, une rape is a cheese grater
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Meaning and language are in a loop. So to make any change you have to change both. If you try to change only one abruptly, it creates confusion and discord. Sometimes one is more behind the times than the other, then it needs to catch up.

For a lesson on that, consider the word "woke". :slight_smile:

that's what I always said about driving on the wrong side of the road in some countries. You can't change from left side to right side abruptly, it creates confusion.

So I've always advocated for enacting the change for cars on Monday, motorbike on Tuesday and trucks on Wednesday...

:innocent: :woozy_face: :cold_face: :hot_face: :scream:

time to go to bed!

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Sometimes the English language doesn't have convenient terms for something, it's why silly metaphorical names appear. "controller" has no obvious counterpart, as does "master". Other than "controlled", maybe. Hence the awkward "peripheral".

Maybe more thought should have gone into that aspect.

True, but then retrospection is obvious only in future.

I tried this to practice going to Europe on my holidays (vacation). It is a bloody dangerous practice.

I was asked to explain that word to my 93 year old mother in law, last week. I wonder how you would have described it?

How I describe it would depend heavily on my political views. But it has become a perjorative term. You can only be "anti-woke". That is because it distorts, disrespects and mocks the views that it actually represents.

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Tying yourself in knots here.

As a dyslexic I know the same word can mean different things in different contexts. Language is flexible like that. It seems to me that a woke person would deny that assumption and berate anyone who would suggest that.

Before, or after the term was hijacked by people who oppose those ideas? Anyway, I have to go, I have to save the world tonight.

Save a piece for me!

We need to adjust this just a hair more.

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Okay, you can have Fort Nelson, British Columbia. But only if you eat your vegetables first.

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However in the automotive industry "rape seed oil" is still a component in biodiesel.

IMHO While one can create examples of instances where a specific word could be uncomfortable in public settings. I don't think scouring the language for potential instances is appropriate. I also believe those who cite anything with a sexual similarity is obsessed with sex.

Mate or mating or mated or ship mate has nothing to do with sex. So mating a connector is not a "nasty" reference.

I am not what you would call a politically "woke" person. But using "woke" as description for folks aware of "alert to injustice and discrimination in society".

I firmly agree there are folks who wish to control others using the woke banner. I also believe any political concept taken to the extreme detrimental to society. Unfortunately today we seem to have a lot of that since our 2 party politically system threw out the moderates about 20 years ago.

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