Hello
What will be the Descendant of the Due Board ?
NOTE: this product is currently retired.
That information is usually proprietary until it is released.
There's a decent discussion on this topic on the Developer's mailing list here: Redirecting to Google Groups
Didn't see any mention of crystal frequency (CPU CLOCK SPEED), not to mention is isn't the DUE replacement. It is simply some other ARM that someone seems to like.
It is not an arduino product nor is it slated to be. If the post title is "DUE replacement" (as opposed to "OTHER "DUE CLASS " uP boards), then it doesn't qualify. If you want to change the post title to "DUE CLASS " uprocessor boards currently available or coming soon..." then yes that discussion might be relevant. At the moment it is irrelevant because it does not fit the post title criteria, which implies an arduino product.
raschemmel:
If you want to change the post title to "DUE CLASS " uprocessor boards currently available or coming soon..." then yes that discussion might be relevant. At the moment it is irrelevant because it does not fit the post title criteria, which implies an arduino product.
You're right, that was the wrong thread. I meant to post this one: Redirecting to Google Groups The two thread titles are very similar so I grabbed the wrong link, sorry about that.
raschemmel:
not to mention is isn't the DUE replacement. It is simply some other ARM that someone seems to like.
It is not an arduino product nor is it slated to be.
That's correct and I completely agree with the responses to the person trying to tout that STM32 board as the "Due replacement".
I was referring to THIS post title. There is no DUE replacement yet so nothing said in this post is relevant.
raschemmel:
I was referring to THIS post title. There is no DUE replacement yet so nothing said in this post is relevant.
The post title is "What will be the Descendant of the Due Board ?" not "What is the Descendant of the Due Board ?". An Arduino employee isn't going to appear here to give us an official answer so I've attempted to provide the closest thing to it. I think links to discussion of possibilities for that descendant between Massimo Banzi and other interested parties is certainly relevant.
The Chinese clones, obviously... I'm not sure why Arduino would make a replacement board for the due... I think there is a reason it was replaced...
Ok, my mistake. Any word on the clock frequency ?
There is this:
Subject: Re: [Developers] Re: Arduino Due
Anything requiring wifi/bluetooth is only efficiently done with it on board
or shield with CE/FCC certification as minimum. Worldwide product type
certification adds another development phase cost to base board or shield.Most serious users in industrial/control only put wifi/bluetooth on anything
that PHYSICALLY moves around, It is more secure and less prone to other
problems like interference or snooping to use a wire (Ethernet, serial,
modbus, CAN, etc). Networking Ethernet or Wifi or Bluetooth needs bigger RAM
and more layers of software than majority require.Thibaut VIARD wrote:
Atmel SAM3X is indeed a very nice device but several others were born since.If it could be replaced, I would see Atmel SAM4E (CM4, more RAM, 120MHz) instead if users consider ethernet and CAN associated with more power.
If people are interested in much more power, Ethernet, CAN and USB high speed, Atmel has a flash micro monster: the SAMS70/E70 (CM7, 300MHz), but its use may be a bit tricky regarding the Cortex-M7 core and the general purpose approach of Arduino framework (I mean able to serve almost all purposes).
I think this one is kind of overkill...If Ethernet and CAN aren't part of the requirements, there are other devices in Atmel portfolio. Well, I have always missed the Ethernet on the Due but the trend is now more about Wifi and Bluetooth.
802.15.4 is also very interesting but needs bridge to communicate with computers and smartphones.Any thoughts?
I understand the question here is kind of: what would be your perfect Due 2.0?
Thibaut
I think there is a reason it was replaced...
It WASN'T replaced. It was RETIRED. All the discussion is about a possible replacement.
typo of the brainfart variety... meant retired.
Maybe you're retired...( or should retire)
There was pretty extensive discussion here: Arduino Due Obsolete? - Arduino Due - Arduino Forum
tldr:
- arduino.org seems to still be manufacturing Due, and selling it through distributers like digikey and newark.
- arduino.org has several other higher-powered ARM boards in various stages of development.
- No one is very confident about arduino.org's ability on the software side
- Speed-wise, there is Paul Stoffregen's Teensy3.x
- Paul has new Teensy 3.5 and 3.6 with more pins
- There is the stm32duino project, which runs on (some of?) the ST Discovery and Nucleo boards
- People who think they need the power of a Due should maybe consider something like a Raspberry Pi instead
I can't speak for anyone else, but I would like to see a more powerful processor with the ease of use of the UNO.