LDR controlling transistors

Hello, I have 2 different circuits on the same page of tinker cad. One is an LDR base driven NPN transistor, that turns on an LED and the other is the same circuit but with an PNP transistor instead. I noticed that with the NPN circuit that no matter how much i change the resistance on the LDR, the transistor is always biased ON. Both circuits also have 1k resistors in series with the LDR.

When i change the resistance on the LDR on the PNP circuit i am able to bias it to where it is only delivering 230uA (turning the led off) to about 8ma with full light (turning the LED on),
But with the npn circuit, it ranges from about 3ma to about 9ma.

Can anyone explain this?

I think you can't share a link from TinkerCad like that. All I get is

Oops!
410 - The requested page has expired

Can you post the schematics as images?

Thanks for response. here

Ahh, that's what we call in the business, a Fritzing mess.

My biggest problem, how do I know the layout of the transistors? And all those sharp wire bends of this low resolution doesn't make it more readable either...

Tip, just grab a piece of paper and a pen(cil) and just draw it :slight_smile:

Hi,
Can you please a picture of a hand drawn circuit in jpg, png?
Include powersupply and ALL pin names.

Thanks.. Tom. :slight_smile:

Looking at the horrible fritzing diagram its seems to be the same polarity of circuit for both transistors, whereas PNP
and NPN require completely complementary circuits.

NPN common emitter circuit needs emitter to GND
PNP common emitter circuit needs emitter to Vcc.

Everything needs reversing voltage-wise.

This is really a case where people are given a tool... with no rules or guidance so they are pretty much guaranteed to use it wrong.

The drawing, as is, really doesn't convey much useful information. This is one of the main reasons we actually use Schematic Diagrams, not Pictorial Diagrams, to discuss issues with designs. and one is not as good as the other for many reasons.

Check my signature for links with suggestions on drawing schematics for clarity.

pwillard:

Many people who get the absurdity in that image will still use a spreadsheet for completely
wrong purposes which is actually worse (at least the picture shows a drill being used to drill a hole).

MarkT:
(at least the picture shows a drill being used to drill a hole).

If you look closely you can see he's trying to make a mortise xD

Time for the .NORM file format? :stuck_out_tongue: