Trying to run Arduino code on external power

Hello all, I'm having trouble with sending over serial data of a GPS to the arduino using an external power supply. When plugged into the computer with the IDE and code, it works as intended. It just doesn't work with an external power supply since I cannot see the blinking lights indicating work being done. I'll send a rough draft diagram I made as well as the sketch. The whole idea here is for the GPS to generate my data, then the arduino processes and formats the data and send it over to the LCD screen I have.

#include <Adafruit_GPS.h>

// these are for Arduino 1.0
#include <SoftwareSerial.h>
SoftwareSerial mySerial(3, 2);

// if using Arduino v23 or earlier, uncomment these
// two lines and comment out the above. You will
// need to install NewSoftSerial
//  #include <NewSoftSerial.h>
//  NewSoftSerial mySerial(3, 2);

// Set GPSECHO to 'false' to turn off echoing the GPS data to the Serial console
// Set to 'true' if you want to debug and listen to the raw GPS sentences
#define GPSECHO  false

// Connect the GPS Power pin to 5V
// Connect the GPS Ground pin to ground
// Connect the GPS TX (transmit) pin to Digital 3
// Connect the GPS RX (receive) pin to Digital 2
Adafruit_GPS GPS(&mySerial);

// this keeps track of whether we're using the interrupt
// off by default!
boolean usingInterrupt = false;

void setup()  
{
    
  // connect at 115200 so we can read the GPS fast enough and echo without dropping chars
  // also spit it out
  Serial.begin(115200);
  Serial.println("Adafruit GPS library basic test!");
  // 9600 NMEA is the default baud rate for Adafruit MTK GPS's- some use 4800
  GPS.begin(9600);
  
  // uncomment this line to turn on RMC (recommended minimum) and GGA (fix data) including altitude
  GPS.sendCommand(PMTK_SET_NMEA_OUTPUT_RMCGGA);
  // uncomment this line to turn on only the "minimum recommended" data
  //GPS.sendCommand(PMTK_SET_NMEA_OUTPUT_RMCONLY);
  // For parsing data, we don't suggest using anything but either RMC only or RMC+GGA since
  // the parser doesn't care about other sentences at this time
  
  // Set the update rate
  GPS.sendCommand(PMTK_SET_NMEA_UPDATE_1HZ);   // 1 Hz update rate
  // For the parsing code to work nicely and have time to sort thru the data, and
  // print it out we don't suggest using anything higher than 1 Hz

  // the nice thing about this code is you can have a timer0 interrupt go off
  // every 1 millisecond, and read data from the GPS for you. that makes the
  // loop code a heck of a lot easier!
  useInterrupt(true);

  delay(1000);
}

// Interrupt is called once a millisecond, looks for any new GPS data, and stores it
SIGNAL(TIMER0_COMPA_vect) {
  char c = GPS.read();
  // if you want to debug, this is a good time to do it!
  if (GPSECHO)
    if (c) UDR0 = c;  
    // writing direct to UDR0 is much much faster than Serial.print 
    // but only one character can be written at a time. 
}

void useInterrupt(boolean v) {
  if (v) {
    // Timer0 is already used for millis() - we'll just interrupt somewhere
    // in the middle and call the "Compare A" function above
    OCR0A = 0xAF;
    TIMSK0 |= _BV(OCIE0A);
    usingInterrupt = true;
  } else {
    // do not call the interrupt function COMPA anymore
    TIMSK0 &= ~_BV(OCIE0A);
    usingInterrupt = false;
  }
}

uint32_t timer = millis();
void loop()                     // run over and over again
{
  // in case you are not using the interrupt above, you'll
  // need to 'hand query' the GPS, not suggested :(
  if (! usingInterrupt) {
    // read data from the GPS in the 'main loop'
    char c = GPS.read();
    // if you want to debug, this is a good time to do it!
    if (GPSECHO)
      if (c) UDR0 = c;
      // writing direct to UDR0 is much much faster than Serial.print 
      // but only one character can be written at a time. 
  }
  
  // if a sentence is received, we can check the checksum, parse it...
  if (GPS.newNMEAreceived()) {
    // a tricky thing here is if we print the NMEA sentence, or data
    // we end up not listening and catching other sentences! 
    // so be very wary if using OUTPUT_ALLDATA and trytng to print out data
    //Serial.println(GPS.lastNMEA());   // this also sets the newNMEAreceived() flag to false
  
    if (!GPS.parse(GPS.lastNMEA()))   // this also sets the newNMEAreceived() flag to false
      return;  // we can fail to parse a sentence in which case we should just wait for another
  }

  // if millis() or timer wraps around, we'll just reset it
  if (timer > millis())  timer = millis();

  // approximately every second or so, print out the current stats
  if (millis() - timer > 1000) { 
    timer = millis(); // reset the timer
    //****************************************************************************************BEGIN PACKET PRINT ROUTINE***********************************************************
    //Serial.print("\nFIX: ");
    Serial.print("$");//Just a random character I chose as the "qualifying character" that is necessary for the UART on the uLCD43 to begin reading the serial stream into its buffer
    Serial.print(GPS.fix);
//Serial.print("|");
    //Serial.print("TIM: ");
    if (GPS.hour < 10) Serial.print("0"); 
    Serial.print(GPS.hour, DEC);// Serial.print(':');
    if (GPS.minute < 10) Serial.print("0");
    Serial.print(GPS.minute, DEC);
//Serial.print("|");
    //Serial.print("DAT: "); 
    if (GPS.day < 10) Serial.print("0");Serial.print(GPS.day, DEC); //Serial.print(':');
    if (GPS.month < 10) Serial.print("0");Serial.print(GPS.month, DEC); //Serial.print(":");
    Serial.print(GPS.year, DEC);
//Serial.print("|");    
    if (GPS.fix) {   
    //Serial.print("LAT: ");
    Serial.print(GPS.latitude, 4); Serial.print(GPS.lat);
    //Serial.print("LON: ");
    Serial.print(GPS.longitude, 4); Serial.print(GPS.lon);
//Serial.print("|");      
    //Serial.print("SPD: "); 
    if (GPS.speed < 10)Serial.print("0"); 
    if (GPS.speed < 100)Serial.print("0");
    Serial.print(int(GPS.speed));//Serial.println(" KNTS");
//Serial.print("|");    
    //Serial.print("ANG: ");//format so that angle is always a 3 character string
    if (GPS.angle < 10)Serial.print("0");
    if (GPS.angle < 100)Serial.print("0");
    Serial.print(int(GPS.angle));//Serial.println(" DEGS");
//Serial.print("|");    
    //Serial.print("ALT: ");//format so that altitude is always a 5 character string
    if (GPS.altitude < 10)Serial.print("0");
    if (GPS.altitude < 100)Serial.print("0");
    if (GPS.altitude < 1000)Serial.print("0");
    if (GPS.altitude < 10000)Serial.print("0");
    Serial.print(int(GPS.altitude));//Serial.println(" FT");
//Serial.print("|");    
    //Serial.print("TRK: "); 
    if (GPS.satellites < 10) Serial.print("0");
    Serial.println(GPS.satellites);//Serial.println(" SATS");
    }
  }
}

  1. 9V batteries should only be used for smoke detectors.
  2. Don't try to power the GPS from the arduino.

Hi, @mdez_99
Welcome to the forum.

Your schematic does not show what pins you have the 9V connected to.
Can you post some images of your project?
So we can see your component layout.

Do you have a DMM? (Digital MultiMeter)

Thanks.. Tom.. :smiley: :+1: :coffee: :australia:

Here are some pics of the set up. Right now, the battery pack powers the arduino. Then I put ground and 5V pin of the arduino to the breadboard to power the GPS that way. After that, I put the RX and TX pins of the GPS to pins 3 and 2 of the arduino. Never mind the tangle of wires on the board, that's for the LCD



Looks like the wire are just poked into the holes on what you call the breadboard. Or did you actually solder them so they make a proper connection?

How much current is the GPS and LCD drawing from the 5V pin?

They are soldered into the holes

Try just removing the six cell battery pack and apply a good external 5V supply to the Arduino 5V pin and appropriate GPS +V pin.

Do you have either of these?

  • a regulated 5V supply
  • an old 5V charger with wire ends
  • a fresh set of 3 AA 1.5 V batteries

And carefully test the six individual AA cells you were using.

judging by the photo, the soldering quality is quite low. I suspect at least unsoldered holes and cold soldering. This can be a problem when working.

Can you post a photo of this board from both sides with a higher resolution?

Just for the info, common solder defects with pictures:



I did check the voltage on the board going to the GPS. it said 5V on the multimeter.

OTOH, while I agree it's not a good idea in general (ref: my post), if it reads 5V under load, then the regulator is probably supplying enough current. At least at that particular moment.

Looking at the photo, it seems to me that your pins are not soldered at all. So it a quite expecting that your circuit doesn't work as intended.

Yeah I looked at the amps and started to slow down around 2.5mA and the specs say that the GPS has a 20mA current draw. I'm assuming it's because of the shoddy soldering? Sorry, I'm very new to electronics.

Adafruit and Sparkfun have good soldering tutorials. Soldering is not difficult, but does take some practice to do it correctly.

Sorry for the late response. Went back and used a new soldering board and checked the mA with the multimeter. Said I was getting around 25mA, which I need 20mA for the GPS to work. I'm still having the same problem. Can it just be the Arduino itself? Is it possible that it is defective and cannot save the code when I use an external power supply?

Remove the Arduino and run it standalone, using the pins that will be used in the project. Verify you can get good highs and lows, maybe use a pushbutton for input and an LED for output.

It was the same set up I had earlier, but used a new soldering board to connect the Arduino to the board and the board to the GPS. Measured it with the multimeter to get 25mA. The product I use for the GPS is this: Adafruit Ultimate GPS Breakout - 66 channel w/10 Hz updates [PA1616S] : ID 746 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits

Says there's a 20mA current draw for it.