Unipolar stepper won't work. There 4 or 5 wires?

Hi there.
I have a stepper motor pm20s-020. There datasheet: http://www.nmbtc.com/pdf/motors/PM20S020.pdf
But this motor has only 4 wires not fifth. As I understand it the case is ground. I also have a ULN2003 and I tried to make this scheme:

Because of fifth wire is case (ground) and there shouldn't be 12 v?

So scheme like this

incorrect for me?

But the most important thing that I noticed is that the 4 wires connected to each other in pairs. The first and second interconnected with little resistance, and the third and fourth interconnected with little resistance. It turns out that motor has only two coil? How to make it work?

But this motor has only 4 wires not fifth.

Then you have a bi-polar stepping motor and the circuits you posted are all for unipolar motors.
They can not work.

You need two h-bridge circuits to drive this.

See:-
http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Workshop/Motors_3.html
and
http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Workshop/Motors_4.html

Grumpy_Mike:

But this motor has only 4 wires not fifth.

Then you have a bi-polar stepping motor and the circuits you posted are all for unipolar motors.
They can not work.

You need two h-bridge circuits to drive this.

See:-
http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Workshop/Motors_3.html
and
http://www.thebox.myzen.co.uk/Workshop/Motors_4.html

Thanks, I got this, but datasheet says that this unipolar motor... Fifth wire as case of motor (like ground?) is not considered?

That picture on the datasheet suggests there are 5 terminals on the motor -
is your motor the same?

Its common for the same stepper (mechnically) to be available in a range
of different winding impedances and styles (4/5/6 or 8 wire).

Measure the actual winding resistances, with a multimeter, its the way
to find out.

Fifth wire as case of motor (like ground?)

If that is true then it needs connecting to 12V, but check with a meter first.

MarkT:
That picture on the datasheet suggests there are 5 terminals on the motor -
is your motor the same?

Its common for the same stepper (mechnically) to be available in a range
of different winding impedances and styles (4/5/6 or 8 wire).

Measure the actual winding resistances, with a multimeter, its the way
to find out.

As I said this 4 wires interconnected by pairs. So 1 and 2 wires interconnected and has about 10 ohm resistance (but this values is not accurate because I have bad quality multimeter) and 3 with 4 wires interconnected with same resistance. First pair (1 and 2 wires) and second (3 and 4 wires) not interconnected. Fifth wire (case of motor) with nothing connected

First pair (1 and 2 wires) and second (3 and 4 wires) not interconnected. Fifth wire (case of motor) with nothing connected

Then as I said at first you do not have a unipolar motor.

Grumpy_Mike:

Fifth wire as case of motor (like ground?)

If that is true then it needs connecting to 12V, but check with a meter first.

I saw attachment (detail from some mechanism for this motor) which has 5 wires and fifth wire connected to case.
What I should check? About interconnected I wrote in previous message.

Grumpy_Mike:

First pair (1 and 2 wires) and second (3 and 4 wires) not interconnected. Fifth wire (case of motor) with nothing connected

Then as I said at first you do not have a unipolar motor.

So do not believe to datasheet? Unipolar can be with fifth wire as is case of motor?

The datasheet is a little inadequate, I think. This page indicates it can be used as unipolar or bipolar, http://www.eminebea.com/en/product/rotary/steppingmotor/pm/standard/pm20s-020.shtml, which is normal for 6 wire unipolar.

The wire to case could be safety ground? There is a rule which says exposed metal parts like cases etc should be earthed.

A meter should tell you if the fifth wire is connected to the motor coils.

bobcousins:
The datasheet is a little inadequate, I think. This page indicates it can be used as unipolar or bipolar, http://www.eminebea.com/en/product/rotary/steppingmotor/pm/standard/pm20s-020.shtml, which is normal for 6 wire unipolar.

The wire to case could be safety ground? There is a rule which says exposed metal parts like cases etc should be earthed.

A meter should tell you if the fifth wire is connected to the motor coils.

Thank you. Your URL has info that this motor can be bipolar. My URL has info that it can be only unipolar. May be you are right because it could be like some modification. Full name of my motor: pm20s-020-hlar

Also your URL has photo and on the photo can see plastic detail on top that what about I said before. I have same and this detail has 5 wires and fifth wire connect to case of motor.

EDIT: I think your URL is correct. As I said coil has about +-10 ohm resistance. If look at this page bipolar motor has 8 ohm. My value so close to this value than value of unipolar motor about 100 ohm.

So now I don't understand why need fifth wire which connect to case of motor if it's bipolar? Just ground for other details maybe?

Sometimes I wonder why I bother honestly.

Good luck

Grumpy_Mike:
Sometimes I wonder why I bother honestly.

Good luck

Big thanks for your help!

two wheels = motor cycle
three wheels = tri-cycle
four wheels = automobile

4 wires = bi-polar, bi = two coils.
5 wire = common connection uni-polar

some things cannot change no matter how many times you read a data sheet that is not for the part you have.

I think that you need to go and check the continuity of all of the coils again.

MaximDroy:

MarkT:
That picture on the datasheet suggests there are 5 terminals on the motor -
is your motor the same?

Its common for the same stepper (mechnically) to be available in a range
of different winding impedances and styles (4/5/6 or 8 wire).

Measure the actual winding resistances, with a multimeter, its the way
to find out.

As I said this 4 wires interconnected by pairs. So 1 and 2 wires interconnected and has about 10 ohm resistance (but this values is not accurate because I have bad quality multimeter) and 3 with 4 wires interconnected with same resistance. First pair (1 and 2 wires) and second (3 and 4 wires) not interconnected. Fifth wire (case of motor) with nothing connected

And the case is isolated from the windings?

MarkT:

MaximDroy:

MarkT:
That picture on the datasheet suggests there are 5 terminals on the motor -
is your motor the same?

Its common for the same stepper (mechnically) to be available in a range
of different winding impedances and styles (4/5/6 or 8 wire).

Measure the actual winding resistances, with a multimeter, its the way
to find out.

As I said this 4 wires interconnected by pairs. So 1 and 2 wires interconnected and has about 10 ohm resistance (but this values is not accurate because I have bad quality multimeter) and 3 with 4 wires interconnected with same resistance. First pair (1 and 2 wires) and second (3 and 4 wires) not interconnected. Fifth wire (case of motor) with nothing connected

And the case is isolated from the windings?

Yes it is.

Starting to believe me yet?

Grumpy_Mike:
Starting to believe me yet?

I said that a long time ago :slight_smile: now I have another problem with that: Problem with L298N - Motors, Mechanics, Power and CNC - Arduino Forum