as the titles says Iooking for a much easier to learn software for drawing schematics.
First let me list what is NO option for me
frizzing (no really not even as it has a make schematic-function
KiCad. No! I NO don't want to use KiCad all you KiCad-evangelists and missioners don't post any arguments. (See footnote ² I really beg you DON'T argu pro KiCad
no TinkerCAD
If I describe how the ideal software looks like it would have
a search-function: type in any type of electronic component like "transistor" "schottky-diode", "zener-diode", "FET" "MOSFET" "MOS-FET" "TTL-FET" etc. etc.
and the software lists up the found components with a real picture how this kind of component typically looks like in reality and the schematics-symbol
Then you can drag and drop the symbols on the screen and connect them with each other.
WIth real beginners I mean users that do not (yet) know anything about schematics and their symbols.
A real beginner in the sence of you could post a few schematic symbosl like a transistor, a resistor a diode and this user does not even know these symbols and needs a real picture and a basic description how this component works
This is the ideal. Of course reality is "smaller" than the ideal. Though what comes close to this ideal?
best regards Stefan
²footnote for KiCad-missioners:
For all KiCad missioners: Do you think it is possible to create a tutorial where the most important point is: learn 60 minutes and you are able to draw high sophisticated high complex schematics?
Time-linit 60 minutes starting from scratch with step-by-step screenshots for everything?
It is so easy to just mention the software's name. But where is the 60 minute-tutorial that explains it all? If I write all I mean ALL. Impossible in my opinion. Waaaaayyyy toooo muuuuch options in KiCad to be finished within 60 minutes.
Is cost a factor? As well as other factors like how well it is supported etc.
There are really so many options out there, but I suspect none will get close to your ideal. Previously when I was looking for ECAD software, I found that they all had weird interfaces, so I decided to just bite the bullet go with "the free one" and learn how to use it. I am very glad the free one I chose was not EAGLE.
The catch 22 is that the ones designed to be easy to use have very limited parts, and the ones with lots of parts are hard to use.
I understand @StefanL38 's point about KiCad, it drove me mad at first and I know what a schematic should look like. As for adding libraries: they couldn't make it more difficult. I have to ask my more internet and computer literate friend for help when I need to add one.
Well Delta_G I said very clear that users shall not post arguments for KiCad because I had the expectation that exactly this will happen.
If you find already the word KiCad missioners offensive
Then I call posting for KiCad offensive too !
It was my clearly written will to not read about KiCad
And even then they did.
I see my writing in the same range as yours.
Are you god to define what is offensive and what not?!
I find your post wording (and use of red colors) agressive / offensive too.
You could just have said "please don't refer me to KiCad, it does not suit me for personal reasons I'm not interested to explain here"
Calling someone a "KiCad missioners" was just not necessary, and as you know the forum, it's like you wanted this to become the topic of conversation... Now you got that and shot yourself in the foot
please don't answer, it does not suit me for personal reasons I'm not interested to explain here
In 1 hour 11 minutes a beginner has seen the video but did not place a single component.
And will have forgotten a lot of details and have to rewind back the video
or will have stop the video to do the steps (and still will have forgotten a lot of things she/he has done in the beginning.
Yes it can be easier. If the beginner does not know a single symbol she/he will be unable to draw it.
Hence the requirement for a search-function and showing real pictures of the component in combination with the symbol.
Your impression of Kicad is absolutely correct, but you forgot one simple thing - Kikad is not a program for drawing schematic. This is a program for creating PCB.
It's a huge difference. The authors did not try to make drawing circuits as simple as possible, since it is impossible to make an accurate PCB from a simple basic drawing.
I don't know of programs that are significantly simpler than Kicad. But I know those that are more difficult - for example, Eagle
Please clarify your goal - do you want to only draw schematics, for example for a forum, or also make PCB based on them?
In my opinion, Kikad is a completely reasonable choice if you want to not only draw circuits, but also create boards. This is a program of medium complexity that has very rich capabilities.
And a separate note - I don’t like programs with a “simple interface”. They are either very feature poor, or complex functions are so hidden in them (to create the impression of simplicity) that they are much more difficult to find than in “complex” programs
From looking at the descriptions I tested elwi and TinyCAD
elwi has not much components pre-installed and to me the concept of using is is not intuitive.
To me TinyCAD is pretty intuitive.
Has a good introduction based on screenshots (which I prefer a lot over videos. No stop rewind stop rewind ... )
From looking at the register side it looks like PCB-designing.
I am looking for pure singleschematics drawing
Me personal I don't watch tutorial-videos. I know it is very common to use videos. Again me personal I don't like tutorial videos. So please forego to post links to videos.
Instead if you have a link to a screenshot based tutorial about EASYEDA or a pure textbased description post a link.
You don't need to know how to draw a symbol, a simple box with the pins marked on it is good enough
Nonsense
Suppose that you want to put a capacitor in the schematic. You draw a box, label two terminals, indicate the polarity if it is relevant and write the name and value of the component in the box. The same goes for any component. There is strictly no need to use the correct symbol for a component, nice as that might be
@UKHeliBob: I agree a box would be sufficient for that one particular schematic
My intention is: newcomers could learn on the fly how the symbol looks like
If you judge almost each and any comment that sets some kind of limitation as "having a personal issue" you understand me right. Very interesting how much opinions and valueing can deviate.
