ATTiny13 not programmable through IDE

system · September 9, 2014, 1:42pm

Hello iam try to programm ATTiny13 through IDE but nothing works. Maybe you guys can help me.

i followed this tutorial ( http://www.instructables.com/id/Programming-an-ATTiny13A-using-Arduino-servo-int)
and get only this Error message in IDE:

avrdude: please define PAGEL and BS2 signals in the configuration file for part ATtiny13
avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x50
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x51

so i tried it with USBasp Programmer but i get this Error message:

avrdude: error: programm enable: target doesn't answer. 1
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

What I´m doing wrong ?

Erni · September 9, 2014, 2:45pm

It is most likely bad connections.
Are you sure that the chip is positioned properly, the small dot indicates pin1.
Also I don't see a 10uF capacitor on the Uno to disable the reset, althoug this is maybe optional

Could you take a picture ?

system · September 9, 2014, 7:24pm

i have checked the Connections and now i get this error message:

Binäre Sketchgröße: 682 Bytes (von einem Maximum von 1.024 Bytes)
avrdude: please define PAGEL and BS2 signals in the configuration file for part ATtiny13
avrdude: Yikes! Invalid device signature.
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

Erni · September 9, 2014, 7:48pm

avrdude: please define PAGEL and BS2 signals in the configuration file for part ATtiny13

This message can be ignored

Try enable vebose output (in files preferences upload)

system · September 10, 2014, 1:19am

here is the log file i got:

System wide configuration file is "C:\Users\Gamester\Downloads\arduino-1.0.5-r2-windows\arduino-1.0.5-r2\hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : \.\COM5
Using Programmer : stk500v1
Overriding Baud Rate : 19200
avrdude: Send: 0 [30] [20]
avrdude: Send: 0 [30] [20]
avrdude: Send: 0 [30] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
AVR Part : ATtiny13
Chip Erase delay : 4000 us
PAGEL : P00
BS2 : P00
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 5 4 0 no 64 4 0 4000 4000 0xff 0xff
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

flash 65 6 32 0 yes 1024 32 32 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

calibration 0 0 0 0 no 2 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : STK500
Description : Atmel STK500 Version 1.x firmware
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [80] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [02]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [81] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [01]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [82] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [12]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [98] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
Hardware Version: 2
Firmware Version: 1.18
Topcard : Unknown
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [84] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [85] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [86] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [87] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [89] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [00]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
Vtarget : 0.0 V
Varef : 0.0 V
Oscillator : Off
SCK period : 0.1 us

avrdude: Send: A [41] . [81] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [01]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: A [41] . [82] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [12]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: Send: B [42] . [14] . [00] . [00] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [01] . [02] . [ff] . [ff] . [ff] . [ff] . [00] [20] . [00] @ [40] . [00] . [00] . [04] . [00] [20]
avrdude: Recv: . [14]
avrdude: Recv: . [10]
avrdude: please define PAGEL and BS2 signals in the configuration file for part ATtiny13
avrdude: Send: P [50] [20]
avrdude: Recv:
avrdude: stk500_program_enable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x50
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

avrdude: Send: Q [51] [20]
avrdude: Recv:
avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x51

avrdude done. Thank you.

system · September 10, 2014, 1:23am

the same thing with USBasp as programmer:

System wide configuration file is "C:\Users\Gamester\Downloads\arduino-1.0.5-r2-windows\arduino-1.0.5-r2\hardware/tools/avr/etc/avrdude.conf"

Using Port : usb
Using Programmer : usbasp
avrdude: seen device from vendor ->www.fischl.de<-
avrdude: seen product ->USBasp<-
AVR Part : ATtiny13
Chip Erase delay : 4000 us
PAGEL : P00
BS2 : P00
RESET disposition : dedicated
RETRY pulse : SCK
serial program mode : yes
parallel program mode : yes
Timeout : 200
StabDelay : 100
CmdexeDelay : 25
SyncLoops : 32
ByteDelay : 0
PollIndex : 3
PollValue : 0x53
Memory Detail :

Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

eeprom 65 5 4 0 no 64 4 0 4000 4000 0xff 0xff
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

flash 65 6 32 0 yes 1024 32 32 4500 4500 0xff 0xff
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

signature 0 0 0 0 no 3 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

lock 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

calibration 0 0 0 0 no 2 0 0 0 0 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

lfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00
Block Poll Page Polled
Memory Type Mode Delay Size Indx Paged Size Size #Pages MinW MaxW ReadBack

hfuse 0 0 0 0 no 1 0 0 4500 4500 0x00 0x00

Programmer Type : usbasp
Description : USBasp, USBasp - USB programmer for Atmel AVR controllers - fischl.de

avrdude: auto set sck period (because given equals null)
avrdude: error: programm enable: target doesn't answer. 1
avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
this check.

avrdude done. Thank you.

hiduino · September 10, 2014, 8:44am

This symptom is very similar if the tiny13 fuse settings are set for a slow clock rate and the Arduino as ISP or USBASP programmer cannot slow down enough to program it.

CodingBadly has a sketch like Arduino as ISP but can slow down enough to reprogram the tiny13.
Check out Google Code Archive - Long-term storage for Google Code Project Hosting.

Unzip this to a folder (name it TinyISP) in your sketch folder and upload it to your Uno. It operates like Arduino as ISP programmer. I believe the default is for a slow clock rate to support the tiny13.

mcnobby · September 10, 2014, 2:56pm

I am just wondering if this is the same problem I encountered (and which you solved for me Mr Hiduino !)

please see -> ATTINY85 : USBasp programming fail "target doesnt answer..." - #6 by mcnobby - Microcontrollers - Arduino Forum

system · September 10, 2014, 6:19pm

thanks now its working

hiduino · September 10, 2014, 7:31pm

What was your resolution? It would help others to know if they encounter the same or similar issue.

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